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Rez
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posted 16 Dec 2019 13:53, edited 16 Dec 2019 13:53
What? Yeah i think swiftus misread it or not got the reference to the bell curve and dog whistle racism. Calm down.

I think a lot of criticism of diane abbott, especially yours, falls into misogynoir. Look at you trying to paint a successful 25 year career as an mp as only happening because she slept with corbyn (who has been nowhere near the levers of power until 2015).

Most likely because you read it on guido fawkes or some other hateful far right site.

Please go and enjoy your holiday and pay your wife and friends some attention. This forum won't be able handle your usual nonsense if it's also driven by divorced guy energy. I beg you.
fudge.dredd
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posted 16 Dec 2019 14:04, edited 16 Dec 2019 14:04
So it’s now gone from racism to misogyny? What’s the next victim group you’re going to line up? Is she lesbian now? And Muslim? Laughing out loud

My criticism of Abbot comes from the fact that she doesn’t actually appear very bright - would you argue against that? She fluffs her lines continuously, doesn’t seem to have the faintest idea what she’s on about half the time, and can’t grasp figures. She’s as dim as they come - how she climbed up the ladder i have no idea. It doesn’t aspire too much confidence, to put it mildly.

And thanks for confirming that any news outlet that doesn’t agree with your worldview is a ‘hateful right wing site.’

And I’m abroad partly on business so please don’t assume who I’m away with etc.

But yes, I agree that arguing with brick walls just gives me headaches.

Have a nice day.
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

16 Dec 2019 14:05
Do you think guido is a good news source?

They had to ban the word 'jew' in the comments section because it got so racist.
fudge.dredd
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posted 16 Dec 2019 14:09, edited 16 Dec 2019 14:09
The ‘far right site’ I got that from was an interview with Abbot herself in The Times by the way.




Owning you liberals is getting boring.
Burt
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16 Dec 2019 14:16
figurine
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6017 posts since 14/5/07

16 Dec 2019 14:18
fudge.dredd wrote: So it’s now gone from racism to misogyny?

It was always misogynistic

fudge.dredd wrote: And as an aside, WOMEN have ruined the Labour Party
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

16 Dec 2019 14:25
Again fudge.

Gonna go real slow for ya.

How is corbyn and abbott having a relationship in the 70s evidence that 'she got there by fucking him'.

How absurd do you think corbyn's influence is? How far does it stretch back? Do you think he's been strong arming an overwhelming majority of hackney residents to vote for her for 25 years?
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

16 Dec 2019 14:26
Didnt answer my question about guido either chief
TCB
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16 Dec 2019 14:36
This place used to nuke people that added nothing.
fudge.dredd
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1698 posts since 15/12/12

16 Dec 2019 14:43
^ Diane Abbot LOST to Ed Miliband in a bid to become labour leader. I guess that was racist.

She then supported Corbyn’s later bid and gradually achieved higher and higher positions since he’s been the leader. Coincidence?

Also just watch some of her interviews and tell me she has the competency to be Home Secretary.

What the hell was the wrong shoe stuff all about? You guys just proclaimed it was photoshopped, later realised it wasn’t and didn’t mention it again. Why did you assume it was photoshopped? Because you know that even she couldn’t have been that stupid…….. but she was. Laughing out loud

And what about Guido? It’s far right? Am I far right? Does that make me a Jew hater? What is the definition of far right to you? And are you a lefty? Or a far lefty? I suppose you’re right down in the middle ground right?

As Leonard Cohen wrote: “its torn on the right and its torn on the left. It’s torn in the middle, which few can accept.”

I travel to Israel every year, sometimes twice a year. Love the country, love the people. In fact I might fly there for New Years and send you a lovely PM from a Tel Aviv bar.
fudge.dredd
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16 Dec 2019 14:43
TCB wrote: This place used to nuke people that added nothing.

You should be gone then.
Jimmy326
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16 Dec 2019 14:45
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

16 Dec 2019 14:51
Right so you can see why 'is a political ally of' does not equal: 'only got that position because she fucked her way there'.

I think lots of politicians have bad interviews and get the facts wrong. Only one mp gets the most amount of abuse because of it and that's from dangers like you who dont stop to think why they're so mad at her and not anybody else.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/diane-abbott-more-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election

fudge.dredd
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16 Dec 2019 14:53
figurine wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: So it’s now gone from racism to misogyny?

It was always misogynistic

fudge.dredd wrote: And as an aside, WOMEN have ruined the Labour Party

It’s not misogyny if it’s the truth. How many recent shortlists for candidates have they expressly pushed to be female only?

Today the Labour Party have the most women selected as MPs than they’ve ever had - and in line with that, they’re at their worst position in 80 years.

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Good luck Doris.
fudge.dredd
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16 Dec 2019 14:55
Rez wrote: Right so you can see why 'is a political ally of' does not equal: 'only got that position because she fucked her way there'.

I think lots of politicians have bad interviews and get the facts wrong. Only one mp gets the most amount of abuse because of it and that's from dangers like you who dont stop to think why they're so mad at her and not anybody else.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/diane-abbott-more-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election

So you can castigate a site like Guido but use The Guardian as your news source? Wow.

Oh and recently, Diane Abbot’s son bit and spat at a policeman. This was reported in most papers… but not in The Guardian where she is a regular contributor. Why?
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

posted 16 Dec 2019 15:01, edited 16 Dec 2019 15:01
I never said that you were antisemitic fudge! Just that guido is a cesspool of far right hate. Look at the comments. Full on new world order/soros/protocols of z/great replacement theory stuff talked about in there all the time.

But then that last para!

Equating israel with or making it representative of all jewish people, is, im afraid a little bit anti semetic fudge.

You should spend less time 'owning the libs' and more time 'reading some books' imo.
Rez
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8704 posts since 5/4/09

16 Dec 2019 15:03
Dont worry though, its an unfortunate trope a lot of people from the left and right both fall into!
swiftus
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16 Dec 2019 15:15
fudge.dredd wrote: Owning you liberals is getting boring.

What's next? You fucked my mom?
fudge.dredd
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1698 posts since 15/12/12

16 Dec 2019 16:05
^ nah
fudge.dredd
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16 Dec 2019 16:11
Rez wrote: I never said that you were antisemitic fudge! Just that guido is a cesspool of far right hate. Look at the comments. Full on new world order/soros/protocols of z/great replacement theory stuff talked about in there all the time.

But then that last para!

Equating israel with or making it representative of all jewish people, is, im afraid a little bit anti semetic fudge.

You should spend less time 'owning the libs' and more time 'reading some books' imo.

Hmmm I’m not quite sure I agree with you there. Genuine question why you think the Abbot’s son story wasn’t reported in the Guardian?

And I’m talking as someone who has Jewish ancestry, as my great grandparents were Lebanese Jewish. The majority of Israelis are proud to be Israeli (whether they’re Jewish or not) - including Israeli Arabs. They would rather live in Israel than under Hamas in ‘Palestine’, seeing as it’s the only democracy in the Middle East, in my opinion.

Anyway you’re right, I’m going to put my phone away and have a drink.

Until the next time someone posts….