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MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

21 Jan 2020 06:31
swiftus wrote:
MLI wrote:
Sholto wrote:
MLI wrote: Anti gay marriage
but basically do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t effect other people

ie, YES gay Marraige DID effect other people, it pissed on their values and traditions

Such a fucking whiny snowflake.

Oh, but my values and traditions are being changed!

Get the fuck outta here.

Yeah, no harm right, everyone should just change, no big deal right?

Tell that to Margaret Court, greatest Australian tennis player in history. She never hated anyone or oppressed gays in any way but she has traditional views and doesn't believe in gay marriage. See what happened to her because she didn't change to the "right" way. :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/0/margaret-courts-australian-open-boycott-controversy/
Richgee
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30 posts since 26/4/15

21 Jan 2020 08:03
Err I’m not convinced you even read the article. She’s boycotting the tennis because of all the lesbians.

Doesn’t seem tolerant, what you call traditional us progressives call backward.

Rule #1 of troll school is read the article
Sholto
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566 posts since 25/12/12

21 Jan 2020 08:16
If we'd stuck with traditional values we'd still have slavery, rampant and violent racism, no women's rights, and even less rights as a worker/employee than you do no.

I'm convinced 'conservatism' is just a proxy for fragile masculinity or fear and hatred towards society.

While we are on the subject of 'Conservative' values, let's take a look at republican officials in the US convicted of paedophilia related charges:

List Of Convicted Republican Pedophiles:

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman* was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks* was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White*, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr* was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs* pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter* pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall* was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young.

Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography.

Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert in jail for the payments he made to cover up raping his wrestlers when he was a high school coach.

Republican Judge and campaign official Tim Nolan for President Donald Trump indicted for human trafficking and forcing a minors (9) to engage in sexual activity and giving alcohol to minors (results from the court pending).
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

21 Jan 2020 08:39
So what? They're all part of the same filthy deep swamp establishment. Deeply corrupt, evil doesn't choose between Republican and Democrat deep staters

Gary Condit, Representative (Democrat-California): his affair with 23-year-old intern Chandra Levy was exposed after Levy disappeared. Her body was found a year later and in 2008, an illegal immigrant with no relation to Condit was charged with her murder but years later all charges against the suspect were dropped. The murder of Chandra Levy remains unsolved.[102] Condit had often demanded that Bill Clinton "come clean" about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. (2001)[103]

Tim Mahoney, Representative (Democrat-Florida), was elected to the seat of Mark Foley, who had resigned following sexual harassment charges from his congressional interns. Mahoney ran on a campaign promise to make "a world that is safer, more moral". In October 2008, he admitted he placed his mistress on his staff and then fired her, saying, "You work at my pleasure." He then admitted to multiple other affairs.[129]
Vito Fossella,

John Edwards, Senator (Democrat-North Carolina), admitted to an extramarital affair with actress and film producer Rielle Hunter, which produced a child, seriously undercutting his 2008 presidential campaign.[131] (see federal political scandals)



Eric Massa, Representative (Democrat-New York), resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted groping and tickling of multiple male staffers. He later stated on Fox News, "not only did I grope [a staffer], I tickled him until he couldn't breathe," (2010)[137][138]


Anthony Weiner, Representative (Democrat-New York), admitted to sending sexually explicit photos of himself to several women through his Twitter account.[146] He resigned from Congress on June 16, 2011,[147] but kept sexting after his resignation.[148] (2011) On Nov 6, 2017, Weiner began serving a 21-month sentence for sexting a 15-year-old girl.[149]

David Wu, Representative (Democrat-Oregon), resigned from the House of Representatives after being accused of making unwanted sexual advances toward a fundraiser's daughter. July 26, 2011.[153][154]

Al Franken Senator (Democrat-Minnesota), was accused by radio newscaster Leeann Tweeden of forcibly kissing her as part of a skit and later being in a photo pretending to grope her without consent (there was no actual physical contact) during a U.S.O. tour in 2006. Tweeden produced photo evidence of the pretend grope, taken of Franken when Tweeden was asleep. Franken admitted to the allegations and apologized for his actions and then resigned.[171]

John Conyers Jr. US Congressman (Democrat-Michigan), A former staffer for Rep. John Conyers Jr. of Michigan accused the Detroit Democrat of unwanted sexual advances. A woman who had settled a sexual harassment claim against him stated that the lawmaker had "violated" her body, repeatedly propositioned her for sex and asked her to touch his genitals. He then resigned.(2017)[176][177]

Katie Hill, U.S. Representative (Democrat-California), In October 2019, news reports indicated that she was being investigated by the House Ethics Commission about allegations of sexual relationships with a subordinate. [189][190][191][192] Hill announced her resignation later that week, becoming the first congresswoman in US history to resign due to a sex scandal.
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

posted 21 Jan 2020 08:43, edited 21 Jan 2020 08:43
Richgee wrote: Rule #1 of troll school is read the article

I'm not trolling fucktard. I actually don't think the same fucking way as you. Can you fucking understand that? That someone doesn't agree with you? Is that beyond your fucking comprehension?
nothingelseworked
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3497 posts since 21/2/10

posted 21 Jan 2020 09:01, edited 21 Jan 2020 09:01
Are we 100% sure that fuk isn't actually some kind of mental containment unit for Dumb & Dumber? And it's only under the guise of a fashion forum to get members of the public to engage and keep them distracted from becoming a danger to society IRL? 'Cause sometimes I feel like we're just here to shake toys in front of them to keep them calm.
swiftus
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1021 posts since 1/7/09

21 Jan 2020 09:11
MLI wrote: So what? They're all part of the same filthy deep swamp establishment.

And you think Trump sits outside of this establishment? You're a walking contradiction.
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

21 Jan 2020 12:34
swiftus wrote:
MLI wrote: So what? They're all part of the same filthy deep swamp establishment.

And you think Trump sits outside of this establishment? You're a walking contradiction.

From what I see, anyone who pisses off the kind of people he does…. he must be doing something right.
swiftus
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1021 posts since 1/7/09

21 Jan 2020 13:08
fudge.dredd wrote:
swiftus wrote:
MLI wrote: So what? They're all part of the same filthy deep swamp establishment.

And you think Trump sits outside of this establishment? You're a walking contradiction.

…anyone who pisses off the kind of people he does…

Given his approval rating is below 50%, he pisses off the majority of the United States. Are these the people you're talking about?
nothingelseworked
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3497 posts since 21/2/10

posted 21 Jan 2020 13:32, edited 21 Jan 2020 13:32
My AI doing a fudge impression:

Dumb wrote:
swiftus wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote:
swiftus wrote:
MLI wrote: So what? They're all part of the same filthy deep swamp establishment.

And you think Trump sits outside of this establishment? You're a walking contradiction.

…anyone who pisses off the kind of people he does…

Given his approval rating is below 50%, he pisses off the majority of the United States. Are these the people you're talking about?

According to the Breitbart poll surveying 10 rednecks Trump has a 100% approval rating. Lets keep to facts please and stop quoting the liberal metropolitan elite lefty loser media machine. Pathetic opposition on here - can no one stand against my bigly brain?
-DiscoTits-
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829 posts since 26/11/07

21 Jan 2020 13:47
Someone please nuke this thread.
nothingelseworked
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3497 posts since 21/2/10

posted 21 Jan 2020 14:04, edited 21 Jan 2020 14:04
-DiscoTits- wrote: Someone please nuke this thread.

Stop trying to silence fudge and MLI. Classic lefty; you don't like the political discourse so you want to curb his right to talk nonsense.
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

posted 21 Jan 2020 14:18, edited 21 Jan 2020 14:18
Defending Trump… Mil, you may as well have a dunce hat on your head. Either that or you're an arsehole with an axe to grind. Or both. At some point you will be forced to admit that he just does not have a worldview. From all accounts unprincipled to the point of personality disorder. You'll think I'm just regurgitating what I've heard on the Deep State Mainstream Fake News libcuck Soros-funded media but I'm afraid not all of us are stupid unnuanced cunts like you. Just look at virtually anything he himself says whenever he opens his mouth. Totally without content, just sheer bravado for fuckwits.

You must be ignorant of the facts if you think he's a man of the people. Would a man of the people turn the White House into a family business? Talk about not abiding by election results? There are hundreds of facts that show he does not give one single fuck about democracy, it's overwhelming, yet you cite his not keeping his salary?! It's a drop in the ocean compared to what he rakes in from his various dubious dealings. Clearly the whole point was to hoodwink daft twats like you. He's a fraud from start to finish.

I could listen all day to proper conservatives with ideas and vision even if I disagreed with them, but Trump brings nothing to the table at all. All he does is whine and bitch and stir the shit and brag about himself in the most banal way imaginable. He is just a bull in a china shop and that's why you love him. You hate liberal people, you hate being told what to do and say, you hate identity politics and 'commies'… and you just love that, for once, there's a big fat, lying, poisonous bag of shit telling all the people you hate to go fuck themselves. If it's deeper than that please explain, but if you proclaim once again that he's a man of the people then I won't believe you. I suppose he's like a lot of people - ignorant, selfish, uncouth, bitter.

Maybe the stupidest part is that me saying this will, I expect, make you even more certain that he's the messiah and I'm just another dumbfuck to rail against. Absolutely pathetic.
Richgee
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30 posts since 26/4/15

21 Jan 2020 14:19

I did like "How did Margaret Court react to the players' threat? In a stroppy, petulant manner."

What's not to like about those traditional values?
Rez
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8208 posts since 5/4/09

21 Jan 2020 14:23
I like that people are finally admitting that their politics are 'I don't want things to change/get better, I just want the people I don't like to be pissed off'. Refreshingly honest!
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

21 Jan 2020 14:25
Rez wrote: I like that people are finally admitting that their politics are 'I don't want things to change/get better, I just want the people I don't like to be pissed off'. Refreshingly honest!

Exactly.
Sholto
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566 posts since 25/12/12

21 Jan 2020 18:44
Rez wrote: I like that people are finally admitting that their politics are 'I don't want things to change/get better, I just want the people I don't like to be pissed off'. Refreshingly honest!
Sell the west out to Russia/Saudi Arabia to own the libs Roll Eyes
morning mist
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3269 posts since 29/5/05

27 Jan 2020 12:35
morning mist
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31 Jan 2020 22:26
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

posted 31 Jan 2020 23:04, edited 31 Jan 2020 23:04
Superprecise wrote: I could listen all day to proper conservatives with ideas and vision even if I disagreed with them, but Trump brings nothing to the table at all.

Seriously? You're saying Trump has no IDEAS or VISION? Are you really saying that? Do you live in the same dimension as the rest of us?

Un fucking believable!! Laughing out loud