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morning mist
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3269 posts since 29/5/05

3 Feb 2020 23:28
fudge.dredd wrote: That’s a great response, Commie.

MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

posted 4 Feb 2020 19:20, edited 4 Feb 2020 19:20
As usual the zombies in this thread can't handle the facts they don't want to hear
morning mist
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3269 posts since 29/5/05

4 Feb 2020 19:47
well, you and Fudge are two of the greatest thinkers of our generation so no wonder we can't keep up Cry

you have to slow down mate, we are still trying to free ourselves from the shackles of conformity Cool
Richgee
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30 posts since 26/4/15

5 Feb 2020 05:49
MLI wrote: As usual the zombies in this thread can't handle the facts they don't want to hear

You say that but when I pointed out that you were wrong about the media being left wing you cut and paste from infowars some Irrelevant US anti soros far right bollocks.

With regard to bubbles you should look at your pot kettle . But you won’t and you’ll just try and shut down debate with flouncing snowflake aggression as usual.

Stop reading breitbart
Sholto
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566 posts since 25/12/12

6 Feb 2020 08:02
Mit Romney (former Republican presidential nominee) is the only one with a spine it seems. Republican party has become such a vile cult that of course it has immediately turned on him - just like it immediately turned on staunch Republican fugues such as John Bolton. Amazing how far we have come in a few years.
krisricey
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6 Feb 2020 12:09
morning mist wrote: well, you and Fudge are two of the greatest thinkers of our generation so no wonder we can't keep up Cry

This Laughing out loud pair of cretins
morning mist
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3269 posts since 29/5/05

6 Feb 2020 15:58
Corrupt President, corrupt GOP, corrupt DNC

I would be pretty pissed off if I were American Eek
deuce
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13797 posts since 21/1/08

6 Feb 2020 16:11
Mist and co, rather than lol’ing at others opinions, why not give your opinions?
Genuinely don’t think I’ve seen any ‘left’ leaning people do that in here - instead it’s just a ROFL U IDIOT to people who actually are sharing their views
nothingelseworked
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3497 posts since 21/2/10

posted 6 Feb 2020 16:19, edited 6 Feb 2020 16:19
deuce wrote: Mist and co, rather than lol’ing at others opinions, why not give your opinions?
Genuinely don’t think I’ve seen any ‘left’ leaning people do that in here - instead it’s just a ROFL U IDIOT to people who actually are sharing their views

Because this is always the response

MLI wrote: As usual the zombies in this thread can't handle the facts they don't want to hear
morning mist
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3269 posts since 29/5/05

6 Feb 2020 17:59
deuce wrote: Mist and co, rather than lol’ing at others opinions, why not give your opinions?
Genuinely don’t think I’ve seen any ‘left’ leaning people do that in here - instead it’s just a ROFL U IDIOT to people who actually are sharing their views

I'm a libertarian socialist
Superprecise
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posted 6 Feb 2020 18:16, edited 6 Feb 2020 18:16
deuce wrote: Mist and co, rather than lol’ing at others opinions, why not give your opinions?
Genuinely don’t think I’ve seen any ‘left’ leaning people do that in here - instead it’s just a ROFL U IDIOT to people who actually are sharing their views

Bullshit. You know as well as I do that these people are not interested in having their views challenged. Don't try and take the intellectual high ground when you only weigh in with your wishy-washy support for whoever is arguing from your corner.
andymakesglasses
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20355 posts since 26/1/06

6 Feb 2020 18:21
deuce wrote: Mist and co, rather than lol’ing at others opinions, why not give your opinions?
Genuinely don’t think I’ve seen any ‘left’ leaning people do that in here


Oh, really?

I did that in an effort to encourage genuine debate and all it prompted was Mil calling me an "OPTOMOTRIST" then ignoring my post.
Sholto
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566 posts since 25/12/12

7 Feb 2020 23:16
"I asked dozens of people a very simple, straightforward question: “Has President Trump ever told a lie to the American people?” And every single person said, “No.” Never mind that thousands of his misstatements have been meticulously documented. No, they said, he’s never lied.

I brought up his years-old claims that, unlike President Barack Obama, if Trump ever became president, he’d be too busy to play golf. Most people responded by saying they don’t care whether Trump golfs. But three people said that Trump has never golfed since he’s been president. No one said that they thought he did anything wrong with Ukraine. No one knew that our annual deficits just blew past $1 trillion. Everyone believed hundreds of miles of new wall had been built. (Fact check: False!) When I asked whether they thought Mexico was paying for the wall, most people said yes but were at a loss to explain how. On and on it went: CNN was the enemy and Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.), along with the rest of the congressional Democrats, were lying traitors."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/06/joe-walsh-challenging-trump-gop-nomination-taught-me-my-party-is-cult/



MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

8 Feb 2020 12:15
Barack Obama
stated on June 29, 2016 in remarks in Ottawa, Canada:
"The steel industry is producing as much steel in the United States as it ever was. It’s just (that) it needs one-tenth of the workers that it used to."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • July 5, 2016

Barack Obama
stated on November 16, 2014 in a press conference in Australia.:
"My position hasn’t changed" on using executive authority to address immigration issues.
falsefalse
By Steve Contorno • November 20, 2014

Barack Obama
stated on September 7, 2014 in an interview on "Meet the Press.":
Says his comment about extremists being a JV team "wasn’t specifically referring to" Islamic State.
falsefalse
By Steve Contorno • September 7, 2014

Barack Obama
stated on March 11, 2014 in a Funnyordie.com "Between Two Ferns" interview with Zach Galifianakis:
"Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered" by health insurance.
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • March 11, 2014

Barack Obama
stated on February 20, 2014 in a speech to Democratic governors:
"We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 25, 2014

Barack Obama
stated on July 27, 2013 in an interview with the 'New York Times':
The "most realistic estimates" for jobs created by Keystone XL are "maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline."
falsefalse
By Jon Greenberg • July 31, 2013

Barack Obama
stated on February 12, 2013 in the State of the Union address:
"We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas."
falsefalse
By Molly Moorhead • February 14, 2013

Barack Obama
stated on February 12, 2013 in the State of the Union Address:
"Throughout, we have kept Congress fully informed of our efforts" to create a legal framework on counterterrorism.
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 13, 2013

Barack Obama
stated on December 5, 2012 in a report:
"If the House of Representatives fails to extend the middle-class tax cuts, 400,000 middle-class Rhode Island families will see their federal income taxes increase."
falsefalse
By C. Eugene Emery Jr. • December 16, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on October 16, 2012 in the second presidential debate:
Says Mitt Romney "called the Arizona law a model for the nation."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • October 17, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on October 3, 2012 in the first presidential debate in Denver:
"Under Gov. Romney's definition … Donald Trump is a small business."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • October 4, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on October 3, 2012 in a debate in Denver:
Because of Obamacare, "over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up – it's true – but they've gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years."
falsefalse
By J.B. Wogan • October 4, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on September 23, 2012 in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes":
"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of" President George W. Bush’s policies and the recession.
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • September 27, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on September 20, 2012 in an interview on Univision:
"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.
falsefalse
By Angie Drobnic Holan • September 24, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on July 17, 2012 in a speech in San Antonio.:
Mitt Romney "says the Arizona immigration law should be a model for the nation."
falsefalse
By W. Gardner Selby • July 17, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on May 10, 2012 in a Web ad:
Says Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
falsefalse
By Molly Moorhead • May 14, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on May 8, 2012 in a speech in Albany, N.Y.:
"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • May 10, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on May 3, 2012 in a graphical tool on the campaign website:
"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • May 4, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on April 2, 2012 in a Rose Garden press conference:
If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it "would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."
falsefalse
By Molly Moorhead • April 4, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on February 15, 2012 in a speech at Milwaukee's Master Lock plant:
"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."
falsefalse
By Dave Umhoefer • February 22, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on February 10, 2012 in a briefing at the White House:
"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 10, 2012

Barack Obama
stated on November 1, 2011 in a Fox television interview:
"Thirty million Americans, including a lot of people in Florida, are going to be able to get healthcare next year because of that law."
falsefalse
By Molly Moorhead • November 3, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on October 25, 2011 in a speech at a fundraiser:
"I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. … We've got about 60 percent done in three years."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • November 1, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on May 10, 2011 in a speech in Austin, Texas:
Under President Barack Obama, the United States has "doubled our exports."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • May 11, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on April 27, 2011 in a press conference:
Says stories about his birth certificate drowned out media coverage of the Republican and White House budget plans the week of April 11.
falsefalse
By Angie Drobnic Holan • April 28, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on February 22, 2011 in a speech in Cleveland, Ohio:
The president’s proposed budget "will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 22, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on February 15, 2011 in a press conference:
Under the White House’s budget proposal, "we will not be adding more to the national debt" by the middle of the decade.
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 15, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on February 6, 2011 in an interview on Fox:
Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected "the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional."
falsefalse
By Robert Farley • February 8, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on February 6, 2011 in an interview on Super Bowl Sunday:
"I didn't raise taxes once."
falsefalse
By Angie Drobnic Holan • February 7, 2011

Barack Obama
stated on December 7, 2010 in a press conference:
When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, "it only affected widows and orphans," and when Medicare began, "it was a small program."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • December 8, 2010


MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

8 Feb 2020 12:25
Donald Trump
stated on January 14, 2020 in a public forum:
“Very close to 160 million people are now working in the United States. Nobody's ever even come close to that number.”
mostly-truemostly-true
By Haley BeMiller • February 7, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 4, 2020 in the State of the Union:
“Under my administration, 7 million Americans have come off of food stamps, and 10 million people have been lifted off of welfare.”
half-truehalf-true
By Samantha Putterman • February 6, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 4, 2020 in the State of the Union:
“I have also overseen historic funding increases for high-quality child care, enabling 17 states to help more children, many of which have reduced or eliminated their waitlists altogether.”
half-truehalf-true
By Amy Sherman • February 5, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 4, 2020 in his 2020 State of the Union address:
“In sanctuary cities, local officials order police to release dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public instead of handing them over to ICE to be safely removed.”
barely-truebarely-true
By Bill McCarthy • February 5, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 4, 2020 in his State of the Union:
“Over 130 legislators in this chamber have endorsed legislation that would bankrupt our nation by providing free taxpayer-funded health care to millions of illegal aliens, forcing taxpayers to subsidize free care for anyone in the world who unlawfully crosses our borders."
half-truehalf-true
By Shefali Luthra • February 5, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 4, 2020 in his State of the Union:
Last year, "for the first time in 51 years, the cost of prescription drugs actually went down."
barely-truebarely-true
By Shefali Luthra • February 5, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on February 2, 2020 in an interview on Fox News:
“Cory Booker and all these people couldn't get any of the things that (Michael) Bloomberg's getting now" with respect to DNC debate rules.
half-truehalf-true
By Bill McCarthy • February 3, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on January 28, 2020 in comments at a campaign rally:
"Earnings for the bottom 10% are rising faster than earnings for the top 10%.”
half-truehalf-true
By Jon Greenberg • February 3, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on January 14, 2020 in a campaign speech:
Says Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani "was a designated terrorist by President Obama, who didn't do anything about it."
mostly-truemostly-true
By Tom Kertscher • January 16, 2020

Donald Trump
stated on November 4, 2019 in a campaign email to Vermont media:
"President Trump has lifted the prospect of voters across Vermont, overseeing a 11,742 decline of Vermont residents on food stamps."
mostly-truemostly-true
By Xander Landen • November 7, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on October 7, 2019 in a statement to the press:
Minneapolis "city government preemptively informed the Target Center that it would be responsible for $530,000 in security and other costs" related to a Trump rally, "more than 26 times the estimated security costs for a 2009 Target Center health care rally held by President Barack Obama."
truetrue
By Amy Sherman • October 8, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on September 22, 2019 in a speech:
"For the first time in history, most new hires of prime working age are minorities and women."
half-truehalf-true
By Miriam Valverde • September 27, 2019


Donald Trump
stated on September 24, 2019 in a speech to the U.N. General Assembly:
"80% of the world’s population lives in countries where religious liberty is in significant danger or even completely outlawed."
half-truehalf-true
By Jon Greenberg • September 25, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on September 12, 2019 in a speech:
The United States is "very energy independent."
half-truehalf-true
By John Kruzel • September 13, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on August 13, 2019 in a speech:
"From 2010 to 2017, natural gas production plummeted by nearly 70 percent in New York, but it soared almost 1,000 percent in Pennsylvania."
mostly-truemostly-true
By Jill Terreri Ramos • September 4, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on August 4, 2019 in remarks in Morristown, N.J.:
Asked what his administration would be doing about "the gun problem," said, "We have done much more than most administrations. … We’ve done, actually, a lot."
half-truehalf-true
By Louis Jacobson • August 8, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on August 5, 2019 in a speech:
"Last year, we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses."
mostly-truemostly-true
By Amy Sherman • August 5, 2019

Donald Trump
stated on August 1, 2019 in a rally:
"The homicide rate in Baltimore is significantly higher than El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala. … I believe it’s higher than Afghanistan."
half-truehalf-true
By John Kruzel • August 2, 2019
quest
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3438 posts since 11/7/11

8 Feb 2020 12:43
He’s told something like 12,000 complete lies publicly since taking office
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

8 Feb 2020 13:55
quest wrote: He’s told something like 12,000 complete lies publicly since taking office

post the lies, faggot.
quest
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3438 posts since 11/7/11

8 Feb 2020 14:02
This radio programme shares some of the most bizarre and blatant ones…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00088gm
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

posted 8 Feb 2020 14:05, edited 8 Feb 2020 14:05
Well I just posted 20 times when he's told more or less the truth and you've posted no Trump lies so I guess you suck shit and I win and Trump wins (dudes getting tired of winning) and you lose. Again.
figurine
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5845 posts since 14/5/07

8 Feb 2020 14:32
MLI wrote: Well I just posted 20 times when he's told more or less the truth and you've posted no Trump lies so I guess you suck shit and I win and Trump wins (dudes getting tired of winning) and you lose. Again.

Must be hard being so fucking thick.