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MoB
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37182 posts since 31/8/04

28 Mar 2021 16:10
Marr can't really go around bringing up affairs can he….
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

28 Mar 2021 16:19
Again the idea that it's okay to have one of the country's leading political journalists continue his career after using super-injunctions…

It's just all so embarrassing.
sydneyking
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5028 posts since 26/9/09

28 Mar 2021 16:42
What difference would it make? Boris could be punching kids in the face on tv and the tories would still be up in the polls
TROYBOY
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906 posts since 28/2/12

28 Mar 2021 19:31
Lolll
Razorlight123
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4970 posts since 13/1/10

posted 28 Mar 2021 21:08, edited 28 Mar 2021 21:08
Rez wrote: For those interested in misuse of public funds.

Odd how under-reported this whole Jennifer Arcuri thing is. No mention of it on Marr this morning. Nothing on BBC at all.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jennifer-arcuri-ive-decided-speak-23809260

Well it's not odd, just more confirmation that the UK is sliding towards a managed democracy, more like something in Hungary or Turkey.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/31/jennifer-arcuri-100k-grant-was-appropriate-says-government-report

Clearly a whitewash and needs to be reopened.

No mention whatsoever from BBC; they usually love an affair scandal too.

I'm done with this conservative government anyway, covid just highlighted that they can essentially get away with anything.

Workplace bullying, travelling to Barnard Castle, giving their mates PPE contracts via whatsapp, voting against spending money on children, etc.

I don't know whether the opposition are just weak or the conservative are truly running things.

Because I listen to Prime Minister's Q's and Kier comes out with some home truths, yet Boris just laughs them off every single time and no-one picks him up on it. It's becoming a pointless excercise.
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

28 Mar 2021 21:36
Keir Starmer is useless, no vision during covid at all and has relied on the conservatives doing badly and it all being revealed in an enquiry years later.

As head of the dpp/cps, starmer has buried plenty of enquiries himself (the killing of Charles de Menezes for one) so God knows why he thought this approach would work (not to mention the efficacy of this strategy relies on more people dying).

He's believed the press' puffing him up for some reason. He'll soon find out they're only congratulating him for punching to the left of his party.

Closer to the next election we'll see the same people in the press saying he's not for for office as he allowed Worboys to go free (a personal issue for the conservative press and Johnson, as Worboys attacked Carrie Symonds).
YLAup
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5703 posts since 5/9/11

28 Mar 2021 23:12
Bring on GB News!
Dee
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12019 posts since 22/11/07

29 Mar 2021 21:15
It's tough out there, jobs going….

https://gbnews.livevacancies.co.uk/#/

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=2477051496&f;_C=1870376&locationId;=OTHERS.worldwide
bertoni
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1480 posts since 29/9/11

30 Mar 2021 05:43
sydneyking wrote: What difference would it make? Boris could be punching kids in the face on tv and the tories would still be up in the polls

So true.
MerciBeau
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4368 posts since 7/7/06

30 Mar 2021 10:54
Rez wrote: Keir Starmer is useless, no vision during covid at all and has relied on the conservatives doing badly and it all being revealed in an enquiry years later.

As head of the dpp/cps, starmer has buried plenty of enquiries himself (the killing of Charles de Menezes for one) so God knows why he thought this approach would work (not to mention the efficacy of this strategy relies on more people dying).

He's believed the press' puffing him up for some reason. He'll soon find out they're only congratulating him for punching to the left of his party.

Closer to the next election we'll see the same people in the press saying he's not for for office as he allowed Worboys to go free (a personal issue for the conservative press and Johnson, as Worboys attacked Carrie Symonds).

Labour's issues are more systemic than just Starmer IMO - 3 distinct ideas of what the party should be that right now seem irreconcilable:

PLP: Blairites, pragmatists who'll do anything if they think it will make them win, kinda pro-business, kinda want to do the right thing, very 'uncool' at the moment.
Activist Base: The post-corbyn labour youth, exist in a social media bubble out of touch with anyone 30+ or outside London/Bristol/Brighton, parrot watered-down post-structuralist critiques they don't really understand, desperate to import US culture war ideas that don't translate here.
Traditional Voter: Wants more nurses, more police, and better schools. Hates political correctness and would rather cut off their own hands than be associated with the policies pushe by the activists.

The only way I can see Labour winning in less than a decade is if a socially conservative leader somehow takes control of the party but given the strength of the activist base I doubt it.

Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

30 Mar 2021 12:06
'kinda want to do the right thing' hahaha
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

posted 30 Mar 2021 12:25, edited 30 Mar 2021 12:25
This kind of triangulation/politics by focus group is really sad.

Overestimation in the political effectiveness of Blairite MPs, contempt for the membership and a completely nihilistic approach to the electorate that boils down to 'We gotta get more racist!' is *exactly* the thinking which led to Keir Starmer and the right of the party in control in the first place, which hasn't exactly panned out.

But sure why not try it again!

Dee
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12019 posts since 22/11/07

30 Mar 2021 12:36
MB lays their problems down quite well imo.
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

30 Mar 2021 12:47
if you work at the racism factory, of course labour getting more racist sounds good Laughing out loud
YLAup
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5703 posts since 5/9/11

30 Mar 2021 13:18

Saw these, very decent opportunity for anyone in the industry. They have the world's most advanced studio too.
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

30 Mar 2021 13:47
Pros: Most advanced studio

Cons: Harassing trans people to death

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Meadows



R
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13294 posts since 17/5/03

30 Mar 2021 14:38
Rez you're getting boring, sorry.
Rez
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8678 posts since 5/4/09

30 Mar 2021 14:52
I'll see you in court R
MerciBeau
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4368 posts since 7/7/06

30 Mar 2021 16:51

Rez wrote: if you work at the racism factory, of course labour getting more racist sounds good Laughing out loud

Dunno where you get the racism point from? Almost all mainstream people, eg traditional labour voters, are very much against racism. Being skeptical of identity politics / critical race theory / woke / post-structuralist academic thinking or whatever you want to call that school of thought doesn’t make you a racist.
Crackajack
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7960 posts since 21/4/05

30 Mar 2021 17:08
I think it's that actually loads of people are racist, and they want to appeal to them instead of changing their views.