General Discussion: Politics thread
I'm sorry but this is so wrong. It wasn't 'Yes All Men' it was a lot of people saying 'Not All Men' in an attempt to make excuses and deny the problem. also, "put perverts on a list" is straight out of a Daily Mail headline. That won't prevent anything, or increase conviction. Have a read of this thread to see what the courts are up against after many years of underfunding.
Any politician of any party who claims that the answer to tackling violence against women is simply a matter of “tougher sentences” is not being honest with the public.— The Secret Barrister (@BarristerSecret) March 14, 2021
Let me tell you about a case I’m currently prosecuting. [THREAD]
Like Inverse says maybe leave this one to the people that are actually having to deal with this.
you say leave it to the people that are actually having to deal with it and I 100% agree. the very few occasions I look at social media, it's full of self loathing men and dare I say, white guilt. these, in my opinion, should also not be part of a progressive society.
Prob one of the few things I agree with you on. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance between people's words and their actions. Until actual reform is made, nothing will change. No point white people feeling 'guilty' and needing to express this without these same white people doing something about it. And I'm not taking your average white person on the street who's trying to do the best for their family, I'm talking about the white people of power (e.g. leaders in business, politics, etc.).
But then trying to convince someone to cede their power for the common good seems damn near impossible…
Rez out here trying to right all of the worlds wrongs.
You ever thought about going into politics to make a real difference, or is shout at divs wearing kimonos on a fashion forum the extent you’re willing to go?
I also share this view. People thinking they're activists with biased retweets, believing that everyone MUST agree with them. Really don't understand this dream that a labour government, particularly a relatively far left one, solves all national and international issues and will result in utopia.
Labour is where socialists go to not be socialist any more.
Labour right: Some of the worst people you could imagine in politics. You would have to be seriously nasty to present a veneer of empathy while doing the absolute most to make the lives of normal people worse.
Labour left: Some of the most well meaning people you could meet in politics. I think a lot seriously struggle with the future of capitalism. They care about the problems in society and see Labour as a vehicle for change, but that all gets sidelined for electoralism.
R I haven't said any of those things…I'm incredibly sceptical of electoral politics and its impact in changing things, especially the labour party getting in in any incarnation.
I've literally just been pushing back on the idea that labour will be more successful if they appear to be more socially conservative.
And I think people here are getting mad at what the papers say about how people are acting on twitter, which is not really politics either…
You have been utterly defrauded by the right wing papers I'm afraid!
If you think going on about things being 'woke' isn't just a huge dog whistle, you have been taken for a mug!
Off topic. A strange phenomenon has happened, there has been a Jezza/Momentum to Stalinist pipeline among young people disenfranchised with Labour. I think if you boil it down Stalinists also believe in socialism from above, but more importantly, historically they have been much better at taking on their political opponents, unlike Jeremy Corbyn.
Agree with a lot of it but part of the Black Panthers downfall was that they didn't organise in workplaces as much as they did poor communities. Workers are seriously lacking confidence right now, British Gas forcing their workers to take a 15% pay cut on fire rehire contracts is just a sign of things to come.
I think an overlooked part of the black panther movement is direct action linked with rigorous theory. Good article on it here:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/03/black-panther-party-revolution-fred-hampton - good article on it here.
^^^ On another Black Panther note, has anyone on here seen Judas and the Black Messiah yet?
Worth a rent, great seeing some more range out of Lakeith Stansfield. Having watched the latest Adam Curtis would really love to see a film about the Panther 21 court case.
LaKeith Stanfield massively over played it at times, needed a lot more subtlety when there are people right next to him scrutinizing what he is doing and saying.
There is lip service to BPs radical ideas towards the start of the film but it feels like it did this just to get it out of the way. The biggest flaw of the film is that it essentially tried to justify the assassination of Fred Hampton because it showed the shooting of cops in quite a provocative and exploitative way and his murder was just payback.
I think it was quite a clever film in how it manipulates the audience.