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DY
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9619 posts since 9/6/11

posted 6 May 2015 19:51, edited 6 May 2015 19:51
YLAup wrote: So who are you voting? I'm voting Conservative

Shock.
phelen
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6752 posts since 16/8/06

6 May 2015 20:05
My heart, the green party, head Labour.


Crackajack
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8135 posts since 21/4/05

6 May 2015 20:07
YLAup wrote: So who are you voting? I'm voting Conservative

How come?
MerciBeau
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4412 posts since 7/7/06

6 May 2015 20:38
My take home would be £2k a year more under a conservative govt than a labour one if they implement their manifesto pledges on taxation - but doubt I could seriously bring myself to vote tory as a 28yr old man - and the potential they might invite UKIP into a coalition is nothing short of haunting.

All moot seen as City of London still gives businesses the vote anyway, outnumbering residents and ensuring a conservative majority here.
YLAup
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5872 posts since 5/9/11

posted 6 May 2015 21:03, edited 6 May 2015 21:03
Crackajack wrote:
YLAup wrote: So who are you voting? I'm voting Conservative

How come?

Genuinely can't see labour doing a better job of getting the economy back on track. Can't be doing with a return to creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs, and after witnessing first hand over a number of years, the e-borders and identity card shambles, I struggle to see past their incompetence.
phelen
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6752 posts since 16/8/06

6 May 2015 21:06
Fuck UKIP, getting more racist shit where I live, and I can't help but partly blame them for it.
MasterBlaster
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884 posts since 7/4/12

6 May 2015 21:47
So you're voting Tory because of their record on the economy and immigration? Turkey voting for christmas.
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

6 May 2015 22:01
MerciBeau wrote: the potential they might invite UKIP into a coalition is nothing short of haunting.

You worry about UKIP, have a look at the DUP while you're at it.

Conservative economic argument: http://benjaminstudebaker.com/2015/05/02/britain-for-the-love-of-god-please-stop-david-cameron/
DuffMan
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14389 posts since 21/2/07

6 May 2015 22:22
DY wrote:
YLAup wrote: So who are you voting? I'm voting Conservative

Shock.

Laughing out loud
Hello World
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12174 posts since 7/3/05

6 May 2015 22:41
Aside from peoples historic prejudices of either main party there really is little difference between them now in the modern age, either one gets in and it is still cuts, minor tax tweaks, minor service changes, its all 1 / 2 % gdp here and there.

The world is a global market now, it is very difficult to create a socialist utopia unless you happen to be sitting on the worlds largest energy resource supply, that you can sell, sit on huge reserves and be independent.

Will the next government make a significant difference, nope, external forces have a far greater control over our economy than what we can try to produce ourselves.

All we need to remember is that we all live comfortable lives in a democracy, we all could work harder, spend less, consume less, redistribute our own wealth and make the country fairer than any policy will achieve.

Saying that I do prefer a coalition government, I don't agree 100% will the manifesto of any party.
hejus
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884 posts since 30/6/12

6 May 2015 22:44
^ this
DY
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9619 posts since 9/6/11

6 May 2015 22:46
Hello World wrote: All we need to remember is that we all live comfortable lives in a democracy, we all could work harder, spend less, consume less, redistribute our own wealth and make the country fairer than any policy will achieve.

on fuk.co.uk, yes. in the real world, no.

Hello World
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12174 posts since 7/3/05

6 May 2015 22:55
In the UK compared to the majority of the world, yes we do.
DuffMan
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14389 posts since 21/2/07

6 May 2015 23:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oQ_tbf6j2A
TIMDOT
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876 posts since 6/8/14

posted 7 May 2015 01:41, edited 7 May 2015 01:41
@Hello World
Don't you mean capitalist utopia? Destroying our world whilst profiting off of it is a very capitalist thing.

"external forces have a far greater control over our economy than what we can try to produce ourselves."
Workers make the economy but they don't control it because they don't control their own work.
When you say "we all could work harder" why? I know for a fact I won't get paid more, most people probably wouldn't. The system's the problem it doesn't just exist 'in da moinds' of individuals Edit: and their respective work ethics.
Also, wouldn't spending less not be beneficial to the economy?

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Still voting TUSC. Even after seeing several UKIP ads in fields along the motorway.
Trumps
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644 posts since 7/9/09

7 May 2015 06:08
You vote conservative, you vote for a plutocracy. There shouldn't be so many rich elite involved in politics.
stoney
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17814 posts since 22/1/05

7 May 2015 06:43
Please don't let Milliband run the Country, the guy is so unlikable.
sydneyking
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5181 posts since 26/9/09

7 May 2015 07:36
Hello world, have you read thomas piketty?
DuffMan
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14389 posts since 21/2/07

7 May 2015 07:58
stoney wrote: Please don't let Milliband run the Country, the guy is so unlikable.

And Cameron is awesum
Hello World
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12174 posts since 7/3/05

7 May 2015 08:02
I haven't read the book but understand the concept, a wealth tax would seem a fair way to restructure capital (based on just reducing the magnitude vs quantity gained each year, keeping it in check), but until it was international law, everything would just move to tax havens (such as we see now).

Not much the UK government can do about that.