This PSG Bayern game is brilliant so far, like basketball.
Same as the Dortmund city game tonight.
General Discussion: The Premiership discussion thread
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19 Apr 2021 07:13
19 Apr 2021 07:36
With Newcastle, what happened with boycotting matches? How successful was this in terms of % bums on seats? Was there still a crowd? The pandemic has shown that footy feels empty without the crowds. I agree that owners don't really care about fans, but the reputational damage would affect them (as well as lost potential matchday revenue, because they love the £££).
With the players, I can imagine if UEFA/FIFA turn around and say these players can't play in the Euros/World Cup, that might make them turn their heads…
Ultimately, it's no coincidence that this has been announced around the same time as UEFA coming out with their change for the Champions League. It's a threat, at best (I hope!).
As far as the foreign club owners are concerned, I don't think it really matters what "the fans" think any more in terms of British fans of British clubs etc - there is so much more money to be made from TV and sponsorship revenues than from gate reciepts and selling pints & pies like the good old days.
As a Newcastle fan I've said the same thing before re. the situation with Mike Ashley who couldn't give a fuck what the fans think - boycotting games and season tickets etc. doesn't really affect him any more as there is so much money coming in from the Premier League TV rights.
Not sure if I've misinterpreted the announcement but sounded to me like the big 12 clubs expect to remain in their respective domestic leagues but are pulling out of UEFA tournaments (Champo's league / Europa League) in favour of this new "mid week" super league. This would mean the Premier League has a massive decision to make re. whether or not to accommodate the big 6 teams (and schedule fixtures around their Super League commitments mid week) or to bin them off altogether.
Whichever way it plays out the stand out for me is how little the owners of these huge clubs, built up over decades on the back of their loyal (mostly working class) fan bases, give a shit about those very fans they used to depend on.
If it does go ahead, and the big 6 are removed from the Prem, will be even more interesting to see how the players feel about it - many of which are from working class backgrounds themselves, most of their family & friends live and breathe football and will feel exactly the same as the average fan. I'd be amazed if offering an even more grotesque wage packet than already on offer would be enough to offset the animosity.
As a Newcastle fan I've said the same thing before re. the situation with Mike Ashley who couldn't give a fuck what the fans think - boycotting games and season tickets etc. doesn't really affect him any more as there is so much money coming in from the Premier League TV rights.
Not sure if I've misinterpreted the announcement but sounded to me like the big 12 clubs expect to remain in their respective domestic leagues but are pulling out of UEFA tournaments (Champo's league / Europa League) in favour of this new "mid week" super league. This would mean the Premier League has a massive decision to make re. whether or not to accommodate the big 6 teams (and schedule fixtures around their Super League commitments mid week) or to bin them off altogether.
Whichever way it plays out the stand out for me is how little the owners of these huge clubs, built up over decades on the back of their loyal (mostly working class) fan bases, give a shit about those very fans they used to depend on.
If it does go ahead, and the big 6 are removed from the Prem, will be even more interesting to see how the players feel about it - many of which are from working class backgrounds themselves, most of their family & friends live and breathe football and will feel exactly the same as the average fan. I'd be amazed if offering an even more grotesque wage packet than already on offer would be enough to offset the animosity.
As far as the foreign club owners are concerned, I don't think it really matters what "the fans" think any more in terms of British fans of British clubs etc - there is so much more money to be made from TV and sponsorship revenues than from gate reciepts and selling pints & pies like the good old days.
As a Newcastle fan I've said the same thing before re. the situation with Mike Ashley who couldn't give a fuck what the fans think - boycotting games and season tickets etc. doesn't really affect him any more as there is so much money coming in from the Premier League TV rights.
Not sure if I've misinterpreted the announcement but sounded to me like the big 12 clubs expect to remain in their respective domestic leagues but are pulling out of UEFA tournaments (Champo's league / Europa League) in favour of this new "mid week" super league. This would mean the Premier League has a massive decision to make re. whether or not to accommodate the big 6 teams (and schedule fixtures around their Super League commitments mid week) or to bin them off altogether.
Whichever way it plays out the stand out for me is how little the owners of these huge clubs, built up over decades on the back of their loyal (mostly working class) fan bases, give a shit about those very fans they used to depend on.
If it does go ahead, and the big 6 are removed from the Prem, will be even more interesting to see how the players feel about it - many of which are from working class backgrounds themselves, most of their family & friends live and breathe football and will feel exactly the same as the average fan. I'd be amazed if offering an even more grotesque wage packet than already on offer would be enough to offset the animosity.
As a Newcastle fan I've said the same thing before re. the situation with Mike Ashley who couldn't give a fuck what the fans think - boycotting games and season tickets etc. doesn't really affect him any more as there is so much money coming in from the Premier League TV rights.
Not sure if I've misinterpreted the announcement but sounded to me like the big 12 clubs expect to remain in their respective domestic leagues but are pulling out of UEFA tournaments (Champo's league / Europa League) in favour of this new "mid week" super league. This would mean the Premier League has a massive decision to make re. whether or not to accommodate the big 6 teams (and schedule fixtures around their Super League commitments mid week) or to bin them off altogether.
Whichever way it plays out the stand out for me is how little the owners of these huge clubs, built up over decades on the back of their loyal (mostly working class) fan bases, give a shit about those very fans they used to depend on.
If it does go ahead, and the big 6 are removed from the Prem, will be even more interesting to see how the players feel about it - many of which are from working class backgrounds themselves, most of their family & friends live and breathe football and will feel exactly the same as the average fan. I'd be amazed if offering an even more grotesque wage packet than already on offer would be enough to offset the animosity.
With Newcastle, what happened with boycotting matches? How successful was this in terms of % bums on seats? Was there still a crowd? The pandemic has shown that footy feels empty without the crowds. I agree that owners don't really care about fans, but the reputational damage would affect them (as well as lost potential matchday revenue, because they love the £££).
With the players, I can imagine if UEFA/FIFA turn around and say these players can't play in the Euros/World Cup, that might make them turn their heads…
Ultimately, it's no coincidence that this has been announced around the same time as UEFA coming out with their change for the Champions League. It's a threat, at best (I hope!).
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