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fudge.dredd
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1763 posts since 15/12/12

posted 4 Dec 2021 10:49, edited 4 Dec 2021 10:49
I just made the point that it’s happened a lot more this season than I can ever remember.

Coincidence?

And Burnmy, I’d rather ask the question instead of ignoring it.

Trevor Sinclair TRIED to dare ask the question and TalkSport cut the feed.

What’s the harm in even mentioning it?

When you’re not allowed to question the narrative at all….well then you’re living in a fake reality.

Let me know when you head comes out the sand.
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

4 Dec 2021 11:12
fudge.dredd wrote: I just made the point that it’s happened a lot more this season than I can ever remember.

That's just not true. With more cameras around grounds than ever before, incidents are being picked up more and more. There have been cardiac arrest at football in parts of the stands further away from the pitch or on the concourse and gone almost unreported by the media. Also the average age of football fans has gone up over the last decade (combination of younger fans being priced out and people living longer) so there will no doubt be more incidents like the 80 year old Newcastle fan at spurs game.

fudge.dredd wrote: Coincidence?
None whatsoever.

fudge.dredd wrote: What’s the harm in even mentioning it?

It's factually incorrect.

You wouldn't happen to be an anti-vaxxer by any chance now would you?
Sticking out tongue
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

4 Dec 2021 11:17
fudge.dredd wrote: Let me know when you head comes out the sand.

Laughing out loud

Touché
TROYBOY
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954 posts since 28/2/12

4 Dec 2021 11:18
I must admit, there are more people having issues at football grounds recently, thats undeniable.
The stress of watching football? worse diets in the 2020s? Vaccines??
Who knows….
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

posted 4 Dec 2021 11:24, edited 4 Dec 2021 11:24
The average age of fans being mid 40s now is also undeniable. When I've gone away games the entire away support is old-timers. I've noticed this trend over the last 10 years.

"Demographic time bomb"

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/football-clubs-facing-demographic-time-bomb/

Not helped by football grounds going down the hospitality route and having massive sections for those that can afford the £3000 to £4000 season ticket prices. I believe that whole new section Liverpool recently put up is all hospitality.
snaye
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11012 posts since 24/10/02

4 Dec 2021 11:36
Fuk deffo got a demographic timebomb
Copper
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3002 posts since 29/11/11

4 Dec 2021 11:45
Ngl I do think the vaccine is fucking some people up. I work in public sector job and 2 clients of mine were severely affected

1 died of blood clot on lungs, was seemingly in good health before
1 had a severe stroke after getting vaccine leaving them disabled. They claim that the hospital actually stated she had a reaction to the vaccine.
Mate of mine has had severe migraines since getting it and has had to go part time at work

I know this is anecdotal but I’m sure there will be some clear links discovered in future. Main thing is that it helps more people than it hurts, I guess?

Not anti vax by any means but found all of this a bit concerning if I’m honest.
Burt
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6180 posts since 3/1/10

4 Dec 2021 11:47
snaye wrote: Fuk deffo got a demographic timebomb
Brad laughing all the way to the bank with RedSuperTed's cash.
themistake
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10849 posts since 20/2/06

4 Dec 2021 11:57
People are just more aware of a cardiac arrest/medical emergencies now.
People are more willing to help and bring attention to the situation. The referee can then stop the game and send medical help.

My uncle had a heart attack at arsenal years ago and no one done fuck all, the game didn’t stop and it wasn’t in the papers/tv.

A few years ago in the PL a stoke defender launched the ball into row Z but it hit a fan in row A straight in the face. They was unconscious and in need of a doctor and medics. They received 20 minutes of attention before being stretchered off.
Throughout all of this the game carried on, in full view of camera 1 on a televised game.
That wouldn't happen today. It’s got nothing to do with heart attacks, just a social/moral conscience.
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

posted 4 Dec 2021 12:30, edited 4 Dec 2021 12:30
Copper wrote: Ngl I do think the vaccine is fucking some people up. I work in public sector job and 2 clients of mine were severely affected

1 died of blood clot on lungs, was seemingly in good health before
1 had a severe stroke after getting vaccine leaving them disabled. They claim that the hospital actually stated she had a reaction to the vaccine.
Mate of mine has had severe migraines since getting it and has had to go part time at work

I know this is anecdotal but I’m sure there will be some clear links discovered in future. Main thing is that it helps more people than it hurts, I guess?

Not anti vax by any means but found all of this a bit concerning if I’m honest.

I don't disagree with you. A report recently came out that said your risk of cardiac arrest jumps from 11% to 25% over 5 years after having an mRNA vaccine.

This is an interesting talk on the subject.

https://youtu.be/LEBGl8MVE-c

Copper wrote: Main thing is that it helps more people than it hurts, I guess?

Our hospital admissions have more than halved on this time last year, which leads to less Covid deaths so on the whole I'd say the vaccine is doing its job. Only have to look at other European countries with much less uptake of the vaccine and having to bring in tougher rules because their hospitals are overwhelmed. (Lockdowns, anti-vaxxers more restricted, legislation being brought in to make vaccine mandatory).

Still not enough evidence to link a few incidents at football being brought to our attention to an increase of vaccine uptake IMO.

billybrown
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3200 posts since 30/9/07

posted 4 Dec 2021 12:51, edited 4 Dec 2021 12:51
Vax of course has side effects, if millions and millions are taking it, there's bound to be quite a few ppl with negative effects sadly.

And we don't know what the long-term effects would be, which is why I don't understand why they want children to take it.
RickRude
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3944 posts since 13/1/12

4 Dec 2021 13:13
Smith you had your booster yet?
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

4 Dec 2021 13:35
RickRude wrote: Smith you had your booster yet?

Next Friday. Then I'm going Palace Everton on the Sunday. Will try my best not to interrupt the match. Eye-wink
RickRude
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3944 posts since 13/1/12

4 Dec 2021 13:58
Oh so technically not protected or protecting others then
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

4 Dec 2021 14:09
It's been brought forward from 6 months to 3 months for my age group. Should have some natural antibodies left over from my delta variant recovery mid August. I'll do a covid lateral flow test for your peace of mind before the game too Sticking out tongue
smith
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11497 posts since 5/5/04

4 Dec 2021 14:19
Let's get back to football chat shall we.


Come on West Ham! Ubercool
Copper
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3002 posts since 29/11/11

4 Dec 2021 14:59
Get in West Ham!!!
Meatease
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370 posts since 22/7/11

4 Dec 2021 15:48
Fucking big win ⚒
figurine
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6024 posts since 14/5/07

4 Dec 2021 16:59
Divock Origi Cool
snaye
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11012 posts since 24/10/02

4 Dec 2021 17:04
Get in Divock