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DY
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9619 posts since 9/6/11

28 Mar 2014 22:03
Plane going over ot tomorrow with moyes out banner, followed by a paddy power odds for moyes being sacked.
jimmoleum
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1304 posts since 15/5/12

posted 28 Mar 2014 23:00, edited 28 Mar 2014 23:00
They are absolute fucking idiots blaming Moyes, he didnt hand his CV in or campaign for the job, he was head hunted, its not his fault if hes not up to it. Hes not gonna turn it down is he?
The retards abusing him are the same ones that were saying he was a great appointment (about 70% of united fans), when it was glaringly obvious he wernt good enough.

Ferguson was still a great manager, but he started going downhill when he bought Valencia. Then Young and Bebe etc, and letting Pogba go, he shouldnt have had any say in the next manager.
Appointing Moyes and not going all out to get Mourinho was the boards fault.

Goldie
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4840 posts since 17/10/07

29 Mar 2014 00:40
He's hardly had the most plain-sailing of first seasons too; injuries to RVP, Rooney (at the same time too), Smalling, Evans, Jones, Rio and Vidic.
Transfer windows were laughable, besides Mata. Had pants pulled down by the "fake" representatives and ended up panic buying Fellaini, who to all intents and purposes should have been a good introduction…a powerful box to box centre mid who could cause oppositions a problem. Hasn't been able to do that at MU and is now targeted by many. Mata was what everybody wanted; an exciting, creative, marquee signing, taken from our rivals. He again has struggled to bring that form to Utd.
There has been no stability in the team, which has forced Moyes to change things all the time, and has lead to a lack of good run of form. Add to that the unlucky deflections, and last minute equalisers. It never rains, it pours.
All in all Moyes may not be the right man for the job, but to judge him solely on a season where everyone else has upped their game considerably is slightly unfair. Fair enough, his decision to get rid of the backroom staff was a questionable one. But as jimmoleum says, it's not his fault he got the job.
If that plane flys over Old Trafford tomorrow then it is an absolute joke, those same people would not holdup a banner with "Moyes Out" in the ground as they would more than likely be turned upon by the long-serving supporters who have upheld the clubs name with pride and honour.
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26 posts since 15/4/13

posted 29 Mar 2014 03:07, edited 29 Mar 2014 03:07
A little less than a season in and there is still no signs of improvement whatsoever. It's still the same passive style of play, especially at Old Trafford. There is no sense of creativity when they're attacking. At best Januzaj pulls of something you can call a dribble, just to give the ball away moments later. Don't think I've seen United connect passes in a way that even resembles some sort of intentional combination play in the final third this season.

You would think things were about to work out after the Stoke game early on. It felt like that trademark performance that would open the floodgates and United would go on a crazy winning streak. Instead two game later arguably the worst period of the season (Cardiff, Tottenham, Everton, Newcastle) followed. Then there was the Leverkusen game and just recently at home against Olympicos, two performances that gave the feeling that a positive reaction would follow. Instead two games later City absolutely smashed them at Old Trafford and Moyes looked as clueless as he has been trying to explain it all.

The problem seems to be that Moyes doesn't know how to manage the team. He has not been able to continuously put together a side with some sort of vision on the pitch, really at all this season. Has he even been able to communicate the general idea of what his thoughts are tactic-wise to the team, it doesn't seem that way. It has indeed been hard for many figuring the tactics out watching United whenever they've been going at it. It still is, some 40 games in.

If he can't motivate the players and make them perform the way he intends them to, then maybe he should just resign and acknowledge that he wasn't up for the task. It's not likely United can afford another season like this one without severely damaging their reputation and remaining a competitive force in attracting quality players.

Moyes out, Klopp in. Add to that Hummels, Gundogan and Kagawa working his magic with Klopp again. Maybe even intentionally avoid Europa League and just focus on the league next season. Let's see how that would work out.
trailofdavid
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6334 posts since 14/8/09

29 Mar 2014 07:20
Glazers pillage the club for years, leading to massive price rises and ultimately the running down of the squad = some Norwich scarves

Moyes has a disappointing first season = hiring a plane

Good effort Cool
jimmoleum
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1304 posts since 15/5/12

29 Mar 2014 08:39
Only the top 5 managers in the world would have kept United in the top 4, Fergie left the squad in a right state, a team that only he could get the best out of. Moyes isnt in the top 50, and shouldnt have even been a candidate.

And even if Moyes overhauled the squad with 5 or 6 massive signings, which he should have done straight away, we would still be outside the top 4 this season anyway as they would need time, but its understandable him not wanting to rock the boat too much.
Aiming such vitriol at him is ridiculous, it was clear we needed a huge personality (like Mourinho) with a top track record, someone who demanded respect from the players, and wouldnt be scared to fix the problems in the team right away.

I dont agree about Kagawa at all, hes been fucking terrible at United. Guy had 2 decent games when he first came. And when he came back from injury, he couldnt even control the ball to recieve a fucking pass, hes done absolutely nothing to warrant people saying hed be the saviour if only he was played in the right position.
If he was that good, we would have seen it by now, and we would have not had to buy Mata.
smith
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11712 posts since 5/5/04

29 Mar 2014 12:45
Bt sports can't wait for the plane to arrive Laughing out loud
mtthrvy2
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1981 posts since 8/11/10

29 Mar 2014 12:56
Rafael is so shit
india
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5665 posts since 31/10/05

29 Mar 2014 12:57
get that plane revved up.
Dasein
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1428 posts since 1/11/09

29 Mar 2014 12:58
Laughing out loud
smith
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11712 posts since 5/5/04

29 Mar 2014 13:01
Can hear the plane loud and clear Laughing out loud
Davinho
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2436 posts since 2/12/08

29 Mar 2014 13:04
United, the gift that keeps on giving. Absolute jokers Laughing out loud
india
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5665 posts since 31/10/05

29 Mar 2014 13:26
remember when you lot on here said phil jones were next lothar matthaus or whoever.
MasterBlaster
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884 posts since 7/4/12

29 Mar 2014 13:32
These United fans blaming Fergie are fucking hilarious Laughing out loud you'll be pulling his statue down soon like a scene from an Eastern European revolution.
Goldie
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4840 posts since 17/10/07

29 Mar 2014 14:07
Stick ya plane up your arse
jimmoleum
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1304 posts since 15/5/12

29 Mar 2014 14:13
People saying City fans paid for the plane.
trailofdavid
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6334 posts since 14/8/09

29 Mar 2014 16:52
John Terry Laughing out loud

Wander who that cunt Maureen will blame for this one
smith
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11712 posts since 5/5/04

29 Mar 2014 17:07
We were fucking awesome!!!
MasterBlaster
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884 posts since 7/4/12

29 Mar 2014 17:09
trailofdavid wrote: John Terry Laughing out loud

Best defender in the league this year.

trailofdavid wrote: Wander who that cunt Maureen will blame for this one

Probably not having a striker who can score away from the Bridge. Palace played well and we were tired from embarrassing you lot last week.
DY
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9619 posts since 9/6/11

29 Mar 2014 18:04
Palace beating Chelsea Laughing out loud

John terry own goal too, couldn't make it up