General Discussion: The PS3 thread.


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Nick.
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3382 posts since 11/9/09

7 Jan 2011 19:44
well thats a shame. got to be a bit of a cunt to pay the best part of 50 quid for a game anyway
phelen
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6602 posts since 16/8/06

7 Jan 2011 19:48
nickball wrote: well thats a shame. got to be a bit of a cunt to pay the best part of 50 quid for a game anyway

No game cost £50 nowadays, if you take some time to look even the newest releases are around £30-35.
AAA
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10012 posts since 15/12/02

7 Jan 2011 19:57
mr.white wrote: Who is gonna start selling ps3 games then!

Any game you want £8 delivered

(no pikey)
mr.white
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17101 posts since 10/7/04

7 Jan 2011 20:01
will they play on my ps3 that i havent got yet

AAA
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10012 posts since 15/12/02

7 Jan 2011 20:09
Once you purchase the PS3 + PS3Break USB they will Cool
ODB
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3552 posts since 21/6/06

7 Jan 2011 20:19
Where can one get the ps3break usb?
phelen
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6602 posts since 16/8/06

7 Jan 2011 20:33
You have to downgrade your firmware if you do.
Byte
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3014 posts since 16/6/10

7 Jan 2011 20:42
ODB wrote: Where can one get the ps3break usb?

Im almost sure that once the code is publicly released you can even install it from a regular USB.

Any you can now install custom firmware on the PS3 and it even works with the post recent release.

http://kotaku.com/5725088/you-can-now-install-your-own-custom-ps3-firmware
CovOne
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8652 posts since 17/8/04

7 Jan 2011 20:46
If anyone finds one can they put up a dummies step by step guide for this, very rarely play my ps3 but would do if i could get this sorted properly with the bonus of cheaper games.
AAA
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10012 posts since 15/12/02

7 Jan 2011 21:12
ODB wrote: Where can one get the ps3break usb?

On the official website is shows UK stockist.

Also check eBay

phelen wrote: You have to downgrade your firmware if you do.

This is correct

berbagod
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37 posts since 10/1/10

7 Jan 2011 23:27
mr.white wrote: Who is gonna start selling ps3 games then!

I'm actually thinking about buying a PS3 now. Back at college this lad used to sell 3 PS2 games for a tenner. Sometimes the only reason I went in was to see what new games he had on the list

just get an external hdd you can fill it up with games if you have a decent download speed will be miles cheaper, or i can do it for you if you want
berbagod
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37 posts since 10/1/10

7 Jan 2011 23:29
ODB wrote: Where can one get the ps3break usb?

dont get that it will be pointless in a few days time when the custom firmware can be used to play copied games cos thats free anyway ps3hax.net is a good place to look for regular info
mall90
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223 posts since 17/12/09

7 Jan 2011 23:45
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-3/first-ps3-custom-firmware-released.html

just need to wait for someone to release a package to rip the games now
eent
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9015 posts since 25/2/05

8 Jan 2011 18:56
Wont sony be able to do something similar to what microsoft did, and just ban any hacked firmware from playing online?

This is obviously fine for people who dont play games online.

Mate of mine flashed the firmware on his 360 a few years ago, was great. Downloaded and burned loads of games, then it got banned off xbox live. He could still play the games, but ended up buying another 360 as the online part is essential imo (csb e.t.c)
phelen
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6602 posts since 16/8/06

8 Jan 2011 19:23
eent wrote: Wont sony be able to do something similar to what microsoft did, and just ban any hacked firmware from playing online?

This is obviously fine for people who dont play games online.

Mate of mine flashed the firmware on his 360 a few years ago, was great. Downloaded and burned loads of games, then it got banned off xbox live. He could still play the games, but ended up buying another 360 as the online part is essential imo (csb e.t.c)


Nope from what I understand, in the end it looks like the 360 ends up as the most effective anti-piracy console this gen. This is because Microsoft is still able to ban pirating and cheating fucks from their Live service so if you want to play on Live your best bet is still to buy an original copy of your favourite online game. With this PS3 hack, Sony can't do shit to prevent people from getting on PSN with modded games and annoying other PSN users to no end. Unlike the 360 and Live there's no way to force users to buy an original copy or to prevent them of getting online with modded versions.

It's not quite as dire as it could have been though. Given how massive the security mistake is, they've been exceptionally lucky that PS3 (and PSP & Blu Ray) keys weren't compromised inside the first six months of the systems launch. As it stands PS3 is heading into it's 5th year on the market, so in any typical cycle, they'd be looking at PS4 anyway. I dare say their ten year plan has been scratched, and whilst they can't just magic a PS4 out of thin air, I would imagine they were at least in the planning stages of its development, and so with this complete and utter shut down of PS3's security, they will now be pushing for a Q4 2012 release for PS4. PS3 currently sells for a profit too, so if they're going to see less revenue from software, I imagine they will retain PS3 at it's current price point, and coast by on the profits made from the hardware, which are only going to go up as they cost reduce the machine further.

With this screw up, PS3 has essentially moved from being a closed system to an open one, so in many respects PS3 now has far more in common with a PC than a console. Because of that, (and their inability to revoke the keys whilst preserving compatibility with the current PS3 software catalogue) they will be left with the same security checks PC games are forced to rely on, i.e. not very good ones.

I imagine one of their first responses to this will be to release each game with a unique code which you have to activate for online play (which may help protect PSN online play). They could also attempt the painful and ultimately crackable route of white listing approved apps (and blacklisting the popular homebrew ones) and if they're determined to throw a lot of money into half measures which may, or may not slow down pirates, then they could develop a DRM for PS3 games going forward.
ODB
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3552 posts since 21/6/06

8 Jan 2011 19:30
i read that over, think i get it, but probs just whoosed me
mr.white
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17101 posts since 10/7/04

8 Jan 2011 19:48
nice write up!

so how are they so sure someone will release some magical something that lets people burn these games at home?

will games start turning up on torrent sites etc..
phelen
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6602 posts since 16/8/06

8 Jan 2011 20:19
Games have been on the high seas for a few months now, since the USBJailbreak. I think download sizes will put people off, for the exclusives anyway - GT5 is 20GB, God of War III around the same, MGS4 even more, all that uncompressed video in FFXIII makes it the biggest at 45GB. All of those are beyond your average piratebay user. Multiplatform games tend to be the size of a dual-layer DVD or less, admittedly. Also as it stands the PS3 only reads FAT32 external HDDs which means games with single files over 4GB can only be run from the internal. Also ISOs are useless, the game has to be extracted to a folder so they need the HDD loader working, therefore people could just burn copies of rented games.
MoB
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37048 posts since 31/8/04

8 Jan 2011 20:25
loads of ps3 games on torrentleech, been on there for ages. Different MGS4 versions range from 17gig to 26gig
carl lewis
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23965 posts since 14/10/04

8 Jan 2011 20:35
Phelen our very own computer guru Cool