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spitfiredealer
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1738 posts since 12/6/10

1 Feb 2012 14:09
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094823/New-York-leper-colony-Eerie-pictures-inside-abandoned-world-lost-island.html
Guido
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12852 posts since 20/4/05

1 Feb 2012 16:53
My heart bleeds….

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16812185
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2012 17:51
Hard to be outraged or sympathetic. Their outgoings seem modest and without knowing them, I don't know if they're genuinely unable to find work or not
Guido
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12852 posts since 20/4/05

1 Feb 2012 18:07
200 salmons a week? Puzzled
Crackajack
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5687 posts since 21/4/05

1 Feb 2012 18:11
200 cigs and Sky TV Laughing out loud

The problem a lot of famalies have (and they are lucky to have avoided) is the crippling interest on loans, HP and credit cards. (yes it was probably to buy a big TV and other stupid stuff) but it still means the taxpayer is routing benefit money directly into the banks coffers with no benefit to anyone else.

robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2012 18:13
Scummers do tend to smoke

How do people expect them to live? Cancel sky, stop smoking, don't go down the pub once a week, just sit in at home every night and stare at the wall where the TV used to be?
InWonderland
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2631 posts since 8/2/07

1 Feb 2012 18:25
My only issue is if he's been out of work for the past 10 years:
1. Why did he have another kid 5 years ago that he couldn't afford.
2. Why hasn't he retrained yet?
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

1 Feb 2012 18:26
Poor people love a house full of kids don't they? Raymond sees eight people choosing between eating or heating. I see eight fat people sitting on the sofa watching sky with a drink and a smoke.
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

1 Feb 2012 18:31
robii wrote: Scummers do tend to smoke

How do people expect them to live? Cancel sky, stop smoking, don't go down the pub once a week, just sit in at home every night and stare at the wall where the TV used to be?

I think most rational people would find it acceptable for them to have a TV, but not a luxury like SKY.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2012 18:37
They're bored and they've got very little in in their lives by the sounds of it. Sky TV is a modest luxury.

I'm not sympathetic but articles like that are pointless because people always come to these things with the preconception, rightly or wrongly, that the people in question are scroungers. The article just reaffirms what they already think.
m15try
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1158 posts since 18/8/09

1 Feb 2012 19:06
If it wasn't for the sheer number of people in the house they'd be pretty comfortable and I don't think you can say they have very little in their lives. They'll pretty much all have phones and a few laptops in the house and Sky. The only thing they don't have is the money to take an annual holiday or have a car, pretty big luxuries to have if you don't work.

I think the main thing is that there's hardly any incentive for Raymond to retrain or even look for a job, he was comfortable enough to have another child. There's people who work who have it far harder
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

1 Feb 2012 19:09
No one who wants a job stays without one for 11 years.

Sounds like he's waiting for 'Commodore 64 developer required' ads to appear in the paper again.
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

1 Feb 2012 19:17
If he was a software developer it shouldn't be that hard to get another development job, if you can write code in one langauge it's not that hard to pick-up another, it's the ability to think like a programmer thats important.
DuffMan
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13373 posts since 21/2/07

1 Feb 2012 19:23
bill wrote: No one who wants a job stays without one for 11 years.

This is a stupid thing to say
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

1 Feb 2012 20:06
Why don't you elaborate? we're taking about an able bodied man who has not found 1 single job in half the time you've been alive.

Not some disabled quadruple amputee.

Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

1 Feb 2012 20:17
should have been forced to work after a couple of years - nowt wrong with him, other than being a lazy sponging twat.
Crackajack
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5687 posts since 21/4/05

1 Feb 2012 20:36
I think its terribly inefficient to have trained IT programmers stacking shelves, you cant make a job appear if there isnt one suitable. But after x amount of years looking for a job that doesnt exist you need to think about retraining.

Problem is when he gets a job he loses a lot of benefits, so he has no incentive to unless someone offered him a 40k salary or whatever it would need to be. I wonder if he has done any voluntary work?
Crudeoyle
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965 posts since 2/9/08

1 Feb 2012 20:43
I think it's terribly inefficient to have people claimig benefits who could work. No body would stop him leaving a job to get one more suited to his skills.
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

1 Feb 2012 20:46
It wouldn't be so bad if the council were able to have him do some 'community service' stuff in return for his benefits.


Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

1 Feb 2012 20:52
havent clicked the link, but im guessing hes a muslim extremist bloke yeah?
spouting evil against our ways whilst having kids and never working?