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Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

posted 19 Dec 2013 18:23, edited 19 Dec 2013 18:23
Noble Locks wrote: Ive no idea, how many have mate?
Think hes saying only when it is beyond any doubt to be fair as well.

You think they werent "beyond any doubt" when they killed all those other people? Or were they only a bit sure but killed them anyway?

I'm not gonna waste my breath when people miss the point by so much.

You understand it wouldnt be a case by case basis, ther would be precedent. You either have capital punishment or not, you dont pick and choose.

For every Ian Watkins you kill you might end up killing an innocent guy. But thats cool just a bit of collateral damage eh. Some people who post here are dumb as fuck, all emotion and zero logic.

Cameron Todd Willingham was executed February, 2004, for murdering his three young children by arson at the family home in Corsicana, Texas. Nationally known fire investigator Gerald Hurst reviewed the case documents, including the trial transcriptions and an hour-long videotape of the aftermath of the fire scene and said in December 2004 that "There's nothing to suggest to any reasonable arson investigator that this was an arson fire. It was just a fire."[12] In 2010, the Innocence Project filed a lawsuit against the State of Texas, seeking a judgment of "official oppression".[13]
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

posted 19 Dec 2013 18:44, edited 19 Dec 2013 18:44
Stay off that harry monk son, its really affecting you. Death to all nonces.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2013 18:46
Got it mate Eye-wink

Why just nonces though! Why not death to all murderers too?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18091903
CovOne
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8652 posts since 17/8/04

posted 19 Dec 2013 18:49, edited 19 Dec 2013 18:49
Anyone watching central news, just had Thomas Turgoose on it getting a tattoo with his mums ashes in the ink.



CSB

EDIT: Should have been the TV thread
Paulie
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746 posts since 10/5/11

19 Dec 2013 18:52
How did Watkins actually get found out?
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

posted 19 Dec 2013 18:58, edited 19 Dec 2013 18:58
Murders different. You can be so pissed off with someone and wound up by them that its so natural to want to kill them.
Death to all murderers of kids or unprovoked. Smiling
rural
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17679 posts since 26/9/06

19 Dec 2013 18:59
Like the Tiger?
Byte
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2954 posts since 16/6/10

19 Dec 2013 19:02
Paulie wrote: How did Watkins actually get found out?
Originally was a drugs bust after a tip off. They confiscated computers and hard drives and found all the filth he had.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2013 19:07
Noble Locks wrote: Murders different. You can be so pissed off with someone and wound up by them that its so natural to want to kill them.
Death to all murderers of kids or unprovoked. Smiling

Obviously didnt read the link. Or just trying to wind me up. Probably both Laughing out loud
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

posted 19 Dec 2013 19:09, edited 19 Dec 2013 19:09
@ rural, yeah lol.

In prison a new geezer walks in, the hard men rulers say whats he in for?
"he came in from work and found his missus and best mate fucking in bed and killed them both"
Hes a ledge, look after him and get him on board.

"he stabbed some 19 year old bloke in the back who was just waiting at the bus stop to go home for his dinner"
Right get a chiv made up or some sugar and boiling water, that cunts getting a new tattoo.

Nonces dont get any sympathy or chances of discretion, they are stalked down like a tiger on a antelope every minute of every day. And rightly so.

Thems the rules.
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

19 Dec 2013 19:12
Master Blaster wrote: This whole Lee Rigby trial was a joke, surely when there's such overwhelming evidence the right to plead not-guilty should be waived.

they're entitled to plead whatever they want, it's ridiculous to suggest that the courts should just dispense with judicial process for the sake of expediency

in their eyes it wasn’t ‘murder’ - they claim to have carried out the killing in retaliation for the deaths of Muslim women and children at the hands of British soldiers

not that dissimilar a mentality in terms of intent to those who are arguing that it would somehow be morally justified to kill Ian Watkins in retaliation for the crimes that he committed…

in either case, premeditated killing to make a political point or as an expression of anger or retaliation is still murder - just seems to be more palatable to the great British public when it’s the hypothetical capital punishment of a peadophile that’s being discussed
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

posted 19 Dec 2013 19:15, edited 19 Dec 2013 19:15
Killing a baby fucker out of sheer and utter disgust.
Killing a normal bloke walking down the road who they were not even certain was a soldier.

=Same thing.
RickRude
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3431 posts since 13/1/12

19 Dec 2013 19:17
Fucking hell I've heard it all now @ Trystero
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2013 19:17
Yep lets kill all the pedos, and while we're at it why not kill a couple blokes who arent, fuck it!

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/man-wrongly-accused-being-pedophile-burned-alive/nbZ3S/

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tourist-is-mutilated-and-burnt-alive-on-madagascar-beach-by-mob-of-locals-who-mistook-him-for-paedophile-8866020.html
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

19 Dec 2013 19:18
there is no point in catting about on here when all we are expressing is opinions.

if you ask most people on the street, they would deffo elect to hang the likes of Watkins, John Duffy, Rose & Fred, etc for precisely the reasons I prev mentioned. For those category of crimes, there is no return to society or reform possible and they will never be released.

it's only the politicians that have held back from granting the public what they want and this was debated relatively recently in Parliament in what was a well balanced debate.
elvrum
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620 posts since 18/7/12

posted 19 Dec 2013 19:24, edited 19 Dec 2013 19:24
EVERS wrote: if you ask most people on the street, they would deffo elect to hang the likes of Watkins, John Duffy, Rose & Fred, etc for precisely the reasons I prev mentioned. For those category of crimes, there is no return to society or reform possible and they will never be released.
yeah… which is why the general public on the street aren't involved in writing laws.
Double D
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3552 posts since 8/3/07

19 Dec 2013 19:24
Noble and Rick, you might want to read up on moral relativism re: Trystero's comparison. To a radical jihadist Lee Rigby was morally no better than Ian Watkins.
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

posted 19 Dec 2013 19:25, edited 19 Dec 2013 19:25
They didnt know that though, they had no idea whatsoever. so fucks that shite argument right off.
Thats the same as cv's mistaken identity nonces links.
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

19 Dec 2013 19:25
Noble Locks wrote: Killing a baby fucker out of sheer and utter disgust.
Killing a normal bloke walking down the road who they were not even certain was a soldier.

=Same thing.

I said the mentality was the same in both cases - e.g. considering it somehow morally justifiable to murder someone to make a political point or as an expression of anger or retaliation

Lee Rigby obviously wasn't 'an ordinary bloke walking down the road' in the eyes of those that killed him anymore than Ian Watkins is a 'rockstar legend' to those talking about wanting to see him dead now
elvrum
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620 posts since 18/7/12

19 Dec 2013 19:26

one of the most heartbreaking stories i've heard in a long time. i remember listening to eddie on the pm programme when driving and i was so furious. i thought the worst thing about the story was that he was arrested and labelled a pedophile… couldn't believe what happened next.