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Gaz
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2537 posts since 20/10/05

16 Jun 2017 16:03
brahms wrote: you're a real person who can vote and own heavy machinery.

It's cool mate, he drives a Fiesta.
swede
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7884 posts since 21/3/09

16 Jun 2017 16:59
brahms wrote: it's always depressed me to know you're a real person who can vote and own heavy machinery.

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swede
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7884 posts since 21/3/09

16 Jun 2017 16:59
jords been had
deuce
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13645 posts since 21/1/08

16 Jun 2017 17:04
Laughing out loud
nothingelseworked
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3216 posts since 21/2/10

16 Jun 2017 19:46
brahms wrote: it's always depressed me to know you're a real person who can vote and own heavy machinery.

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figurine
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5669 posts since 14/5/07

16 Jun 2017 19:57
swede wrote:
brahms wrote: it's always depressed me to know you're a real person who can vote and own heavy machinery.

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Laughing out loud
TIMDOT
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862 posts since 6/8/14

posted 16 Jun 2017 19:59, edited 16 Jun 2017 19:59
RickRude wrote: Its disgraceful race baiting fake news - especially when they are still looking for dead people. Saw a video of Akala (rapper) spewing some bullshit about rich vs poor to cameras on the day it was still burning.

Have some expathy and repsect - instead of going straight in to serve your narrative.
With this indecent you have how many thousands of people up and down the country scared of the homes they live in. I bet he has family in these types of building. The cons have suppressed a tower block safety report for 4 years. Along with voting against Corbyn's push to introduce a law that made landlords accountable for making their homes "fit for human habitation". Not to mention the never ending series of cuts to fire services. It is a political issue.
RickRude
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3258 posts since 13/1/12

16 Jun 2017 20:53
Political narrative or not - he's standing outside whilst dead children's bodies are burning inside still. Time and place mate.
TIMDOT
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862 posts since 6/8/14

16 Jun 2017 21:05
It was caused by incompetency. It could have happened at any time at any place.
EssexBoyII
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6391 posts since 5/6/07

16 Jun 2017 23:38
TIMDOT wrote: Corbyn's push to introduce a law that made landlords accountable for making their homes "fit for human habitation". Not to mention the never ending series of cuts to fire services. It is a political issue.

So is that current law now then? Occupiers Liability Act? Defective Premises Act?
RickRude
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3258 posts since 13/1/12

17 Jun 2017 00:04
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/grenfell-tower-shameful-symbol-state-did-not-care

Good article
Crackajack
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7061 posts since 21/4/05

17 Jun 2017 00:30
The Tory mindset is that there is always stuff to cut or privatise, and those cuts or outsourcing don't have a consequence and they can absolve responsibility. At its core it is a rejection of democracy. The obvious reality is that less people to inspect property for safety, less police, less social services, less nurses and the back office to support them actually has an impact on society. Who would have thought…
MLI
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4360 posts since 6/10/09

17 Jun 2017 01:58
brahms wrote: Or… the factors that are related to this are modern and socioeconomic rather than religious

Yeah, there's a fucktard at work that talks about this. "They're downtrodden by Western Imperialst Capitalism so have no other choice but to turn to terrorism".

Ugh yeah, the 9-11 Hijackers were wealthy. I grew up poor, I'm still poor compared to my peers but for some reason I don't feel like murdering innocent people because of it..

MLI
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4360 posts since 6/10/09

17 Jun 2017 02:00
deuce wrote:
Islam has its flaws, as does the Right.
because islam = the left
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I'm also laughing at that one.

But the right never had a monopoly on Fascism anyway so it's irrelevant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-18/

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/beware-the-rise-left-wing-authoritarianism-19145

https://medium.com/@john_mathon/how-did-the-left-become-the-fascists-4bd76aca3488
carl lewis
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23626 posts since 14/10/04

17 Jun 2017 07:04

Was down there on Weds and Thurs, complete madness.
TIMDOT
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862 posts since 6/8/14

17 Jun 2017 09:16
Explains why I keep getting in the auth-right quadrant when I do a political compass test.
fudge.dredd
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554 posts since 15/12/12

posted 17 Jun 2017 11:31, edited 17 Jun 2017 11:31
There are moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam.

Any of these Muslims (my own family included) who claim it is a religion of peace and have no issues with anyone who isn't a Muslim, etc etc, would not last two minutes in an Islamic state or under Shariah.

THAT is real Islam as ordained by Muhammed, whether in the Koran, Hadith, etc.

You want to be gay in Muhammad's Islam? Good luck.
You want to be open and tolerant of other societies in Muhammed's Islam? Good luck.

And you can piss about and being up the Torah and Bible quotations until you're blue in the face but the Koran calls itself the FINAL revelation. After it there shall be no more. So good luck in trying to 'reform' the unalterable, final, literal word of God.

There lies your problems in the Islamic world. There lies the lack of reason and anything that goes against God's teachings.

TIMDOT
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862 posts since 6/8/14

17 Jun 2017 12:02
So it's uniquely bad? So disingenuous.
If you and Deuce really believe that then you are con-men. It is the politics of doing as you're told.
fudge.dredd
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554 posts since 15/12/12

17 Jun 2017 12:16
^ it is uniquely bad in every possible sense.
TIMDOT
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862 posts since 6/8/14

17 Jun 2017 13:19
Every bad aspect exists and has existed elsewhere. Homophobia, terrorism, religious persecution, patriarchy etc. Socio-economic cause and solution. Not just the ideas in peoples heads.

Stop buying expensive TV's and buy some history books, where the author has actually put their career on the line to present factual info in context. Not your David Ickes level shit.