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Noble Locks
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5 Apr 2010 01:46
inversesquare
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5 Apr 2010 01:47
A gif speaks a thousand words.
bill
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5 Apr 2010 01:52
Smiling

And we all made an allowance today. Every fucking place is shut, even B&Q. I had a nap.

Noble Locks
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5 Apr 2010 01:53
wagamamas wasnt.
Serbia
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5 Apr 2010 01:54
Foxtrot wrote:
Guido wrote: We're told we should accept religion and make allowances for it. Why?

Religion is a tool created by man to control man and prays on our fallibilities and weakness as mortal beings aware of our own ultimate demise.

I personally think those who can accept that and live a productive life are the strongest people alive.

No, people like you assume that you should accept religion and make allowances for it. 21st century is a far more secular society than what we have experienced before. Im sure you would agree? This trend towards secularisation, suggests that more and more people get on with their lives without having to rely on a belief system, without being influenced by the apparent acceptance that has been made for religion (to indulge you for one moment), and without conceding any ground to religion altogether.

Who tells you that you are to accept religion and make allowances for it? I certainly do not implore you to accept my belief system. I certainly do not ram my point of view down the throats of others and i certainly do not ask you to make allowances for my belief.

Your point is relevant only to a small minority of dogmatists.

I think my initial point remains in relation to the respective roles of the two 'institutions'. We can all suggest aphorisms. I could say that science, inter alia, is a tool created by man to pray on our insecurities and deep seated discomfort with the possibility in the existence of a creator. It doesnt make it any more true.

Laughing out loud lol

The point is religion is ingrained in culture and has been as long as the human race has existed. It changes as we evolve. Regligion/ a belief system is a cultural meme. It doesnt need to be forced down your throat by an extremist.

See below Re. Religion as a cultural Meme.

The British scientist Richard Dawkins coined (or adapted) the word "meme" in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. Examples of memes given in the book included melodies, catch-phrases, beliefs (notably religious beliefs), clothing fashion, and the technology of building arches.[4]

Meme-theorists contend that memes evolve by natural selection (in a manner analogous to that of biological evolution) through the processes of variation, mutation, competition, and inheritance influencing an individual meme's reproductive success. Memes spread through the behaviors that they generate in their hosts. Memes that propagate less prolifically may become extinct, while others may survive, spread, and (for better or for worse) mutate. Theorists point out that memes which replicate the most effectively spread best, and some memes may replicate effectively even when they prove detrimental to the welfare of their hosts.[5]

MoB
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5 Apr 2010 01:55
or nandos
Noble Locks
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5 Apr 2010 01:56
or bowling
MoB
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5 Apr 2010 01:58
or clubs
MoB
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5 Apr 2010 02:00
better with music
Noble Locks
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5 Apr 2010 02:01
Laughing out loud dont remember that one. bwillaint.

MoB
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5 Apr 2010 02:03
that was from ages ago when he said he was jeffrey daniels twin talent Laughing out loud
San
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5 Apr 2010 15:47
Never seen that dancing famez one before, that ones serious Laughing out loud
Homer
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5 Apr 2010 15:53
Well funny , dont remember the music one Laughing out loud
velvet
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5 Apr 2010 15:54
Laughing out loud

that is impressive matt
EVERS
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28 Feb 2011 21:41
couldnt find a science thread so this do.

my missus just said if you take all the ships out of the sea, sea levels will get lower Laughing out loud
andymakesglasses
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28 Feb 2011 21:57
Well her physics is sound - according to Archimedes' Principle the volume of water displaced is equal to the volume of the object placed in it. So remove all the ships and the sea level will go down.

In practice though it would go down by such a minute amount that it would be immeasurable, unnoticeable and therefore irrelevant.
EVERS
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28 Feb 2011 22:07
yeah but.. Sticking out tongue
stelfox
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28 Feb 2011 22:12
EVERS wrote: couldnt find a science thread so this do.

Laughing out loud
FrIEND
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28 Feb 2011 22:14
San wrote: Never seen that dancing famez one before, that ones serious Laughing out loud
timmbo
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1 Mar 2011 00:04
this thread is a fucking goldmine. was Mr X trolling, or is he actually that much of a freak?