General Discussion: ROYAL MAIL


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Trumps
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623 posts since 7/9/09

7 Oct 2009 18:57
Hypothetical question. Say you ordered something over the internet that went over the 15 day window. You then get refunded the money for the purchase by the source site as they went after Royal Mail to reimburse them. A few days later the recorded mail parcel turns up on your doorstep while you were out, with the signature tags gone and no other evidence of it having been delivered to you. Is it a win win?
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

7 Oct 2009 18:59
course bruv.
Trumps
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623 posts since 7/9/09

7 Oct 2009 19:06
Ordered something from the internet, the tracking website says Royal Mail received the package for sending on 16/9. I'm still waiting. Thinking its lost as some mail turned up two days ago post dated the 25th.
unkleandy
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530 posts since 15/6/09

7 Oct 2009 20:43
It's a massive Win Win mate…. But obviously a hypothetical situation

It's why I don't ship to Italy as there postal service never gets them sign for things when they deliver it so the tracking never gets completed. People know this and will always win a paypal dispute via eBay! Learnt that the hard way Sad
Trumps
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623 posts since 7/9/09

7 Oct 2009 20:56
hypothetically it would be good to check out the tracking account on the Royal Mail website to see if anything came up on there, ie if they said I might've signed or a neighbour did. As long as that stayed as uncompleted it would be fine I'd imagine…
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

7 Oct 2009 21:42
Noble Locks wrote: has special delivery gone up massively, i sent some heatz double boxed and it was 21 quid.

They changed all the parcel costs this week the nice lady in the post office told me today.

Dave4
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996 posts since 26/8/07

9 Oct 2009 09:41
For anyone who needs to send parcels with a decent standard service during these rough times for the Royal Mail, i can reccommend this service. They organise couriers to come and pick up from your house and its not too much more expensive.

http://www.interparcel.com/
andymakesglasses
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20186 posts since 26/1/06

13 Oct 2009 11:44
I'm not sure what the Royal Mail strikes are actually trying to achieve - I know the unions want better pay and conditions for their workers, and to be properly consulted on the cuts that are being made, but all this strike action seems to be doing is making the public angry, destroying the service, and driving customers elsewhere.

John Lewis have announced that they're going to stop using the Royal Mail so that their customers are unaffected by the strike action, and other companies are considering it. I've just spoken to a factory and they're stopping sending with Royal Mail because too many glasses (custom-made, so effectively irreplaceable without a lot more work) have gone missing recently.

http://www.drapersonline.com/5007108.article

Does anyone here really distinguish between the Royal Mail as a whole and the sub-management workforce? I like my postie (no homo) but the service provided by the company is shocking at the moment.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

13 Oct 2009 11:54
Modernisation (for efficiency / automation) and reduction of cost means job cuts, such as the highly sucessful MDEC project which is people correcting the AOI of letter and parcel reading for automatic sorting essentially removing all people working in the sorting offices / general workers (not posties / deliveries).

They are all in the same union so you can't just hack off 25% of the staff to save money and actually make the buisness work, becasue that is not allowed (also massive pension legacy cost problem)
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

13 Oct 2009 13:06
they royal mail are giving royal preference to amazon to not lose their busyniss and thats a fact, ive ordered a dvd or c.d every day for about the last ten days, all using the super saver free delivery, and EVERY single one has been next day delivery.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

13 Oct 2009 13:26
Aren't Amazon dropping them now?
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

13 Oct 2009 13:28
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218937/Amazon-desert-Royal-Mail-strike-fears-leading-Christmas.html
unkleandy
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530 posts since 15/6/09

13 Oct 2009 13:32
A company that is good to use for mulitple parcels is parcel2go.com, not worth it for anything less than 10 parcels thou. But if you do a big eBay post all at once etc.

I will dig out the company I use for single pacakges tonight if I can…
phelen
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6396 posts since 16/8/06

13 Oct 2009 13:51
The way I see this is that whilst the PO used to make fortunes for the Govt, very little was re-invested.

A programme then began of selling-off the most lucrative areas of the PO's business and so the PO started losing money - which the Govt took as a cue to begin it's dismantling.

The problem is that no-one wants the bits which are leftover and so the Govt needs an excuse to break-it-up more formally or at least run it into the ground.

and what better way than by pushing the 'usual suspects' within Unions etc. into a corner so you can use them to make it look like they're the badguys. Working for the PO was once a prestigious and well-paid job but this is the 21stC and you can't be paid more than minimum wage for something unless you're in banking nowadays and so…

I'm sure, like any dispute, there's a reasonable and a not-so-reasonable aspect to this - but the whole thing is, IMO, a smokescreen for a Govt who are determined to destroy what remains of the PO and leave the rest to be picked-off by private firms.

Believe me now - if you think the PO were bad for getting your CDs, Games, Visvims, wait until the best you can expect are services like Parcelforce or Citylink.

If you think the PO process a lot of junkmail wait until that's being done by a private contractor (it will take a week and come with half-a-tonne of crap) etc. etc.

This is just the start of what's going to ultimately be a massive increase on the cost of getting anything anywhere - only the extra money won't be reflecting the actual cost, just the money shareholders expect to make for doing fuck all - as usual.

carl lewis
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23634 posts since 14/10/04

17 Oct 2009 00:58
This looks decent http://www.collectplus.co.uk/ so they will deliver the parcel to your local store with some stores being open from 7am to 12 midnight.

Anyone used them before?
inversesquare
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6663 posts since 7/6/08

17 Oct 2009 02:02
So now is time to buy shares in the companies that will snaffle what remains of the postal service?
Kingmob07
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8949 posts since 11/5/07

17 Oct 2009 05:15
Noble Locks wrote: they royal mail are giving royal preference to amazon to not lose their busyniss and thats a fact, ive ordered a dvd or c.d every day for about the last ten days, all using the super saver free delivery, and EVERY single one has been next day delivery.

Well, I've had to wait an extra day (presuming it actually arrives sometime this morning) for something I bought super saver. But yeah, usually comes next day. Fuck Royal Mail.
Jason789
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6210 posts since 2/1/07

17 Oct 2009 11:01
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221003/Sorry-Why-does-Royal-Mail-leave-card-know-in.html
heezy
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435 posts since 3/1/08

17 Oct 2009 11:09
^^ funny thing, the exact same problem is here in Finland too.

They just are lazy fuckers.
MrBigStuff
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2490 posts since 6/3/09

20 Oct 2009 13:42
man. i hate those bastards. i hope all the grey, working class, whistling psost'people' die. scum.