General Discussion: The Running Thread


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Fläsket
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3801 posts since 14/8/04

27 Nov 2020 03:24
Laughing out loud well it must be a Nordic country thing then if it's just the one fella/bird in Cornwall. France ain't got em in any numbers either
Scottishmark
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660 posts since 25/1/11

27 Nov 2020 09:05
ODB wrote: How old are ye Mark ?
30. Since I got into my later 20’s I’ve been feeling like I’m about 60 though. Sad
ODB
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3487 posts since 21/6/06

27 Nov 2020 10:42
In your prime mate
I’m 42 feel like 22 tho
zoom
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6411 posts since 22/7/05

posted 27 Nov 2020 10:57, edited 27 Nov 2020 10:57
30 and your feeling old? I would try focusing on your diet more mate, maybe that’s what’s making you feel so old and rubbish? Your in your prime years as ODB says.

I’m older than you, and have run about 250km a month on average since March and haven’t had one injury yet, but I always stretch before and after, get enough sleep and eat pretty well during the week.

Do you stretch before and after running?
swiftus
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1239 posts since 1/7/09

27 Nov 2020 11:30
zoom wrote: 30 and your feeling old? I would try focusing on your diet more mate, maybe that’s what’s making you feel so old and rubbish? Your in your prime years as ODB says.

I’m older than you, and have run about 250km a month on average since March and haven’t had one injury yet, but I always stretch before and after, get enough sleep and eat pretty well during the week.

Do you stretch before and after running?

What's your stretching routine zoom? I need to start doing it, right now I just get dressed and head out.
ODB
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3487 posts since 21/6/06

27 Nov 2020 11:37
guilty of not doing enough stretching too, 3 mins and I'm off lol
interested too Zoom?
ODB
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3487 posts since 21/6/06

27 Nov 2020 11:39
pops wrote: That’s quite a distance anyway tbf Laughing out loud
Laughing out loud
timmbo
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3443 posts since 9/2/10

27 Nov 2020 11:40
Zoom, you’re an electrician aren’t you? Not being sat at a desk all day will mean you’re probably a lot stronger than an office worker (hip flexors not tight, shoulders not pulled forward, glutes haven’t atrophied etc), so you’ve been fine clocking up the miles. Anyone with an office job will have lots of weaknesses/imbalances they have to compensate for and be more prone to injury. Doing some light stretching before/after a run won’t be enough - dedicated sessions for flexibility and strength are needed.

Got my first trail marathon (27 miles, so technically my first ultra), with 4650ft of elevation in 8 days. I think I’m reasonably well prepared, but has anyone done one before, and can share anything they wish they’d known before doing their first?
andrew_
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563 posts since 23/1/10

27 Nov 2020 13:42
I'm 31 and started this year, had an injury and am sure it's down to having chronic 'office bod' like timbo says.

Realised how poor my balance in leg/foot tendons is specifically, really trying to work on that with exercises on non-run days.

Some of the times in here are amazing. 250km a month is absolutely mad. Well done lads.

Can run about a 25:00 5k, am focusing on building up to doing a 10k by end of this year before trying another 5k PB…
Burt
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6097 posts since 3/1/10

posted 27 Nov 2020 14:24, edited 27 Nov 2020 14:24
timmbo wrote: Got my first trail marathon (27 miles, so technically my first ultra), with 4650ft of elevation in 8 days. I think I’m reasonably well prepared, but has anyone done one before, and can share anything they wish they’d known before doing their first?
Cool

My Ultra (planned for this year) was cancelled 'til June 2021 - I'm doing the Race to the Tower which is 52 miles.

I've watched loads of videos via YouTube on prep and individual's experiences - this one is up there as one of the best…

…also worth checking out Billy Yang's experience of the Leadville 100 (if you're into that sorta thing!)…

Best of luck, timmbo - let us know how you get on.
MrW
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2786 posts since 1/8/11

27 Nov 2020 14:26
Lot of good work all round in here, some great times and distances Cool

Been running regularly for around 7 years now, more mixed with swimming & cycling over the last 3 or 4. I'm the wrong side of 40 and found out pretty quickly stretching / warming up / cooling down is key.

Last 3 or 4 years I've trained using heart rate, when I started it seemed counter-intuitive to run slowly to keep HR down but it works. Speedwork and interval sessions work wonders, but so do long slower runs. Going all out all the time is the best way to put yourself out of action.

Usually train 5-6 days a week of which 2 or 3 will be runs, I sit at a desk tapping keys all day and if I don't move I start to seize up.

As zoom said, eat healthy, stretch / warm-up / cool down, and sleep well. If you can, cross train, and while it was said by a cyclist it rings true for running - it never gets easier, you just get faster Sticking out tongue
Burt
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6097 posts since 3/1/10

27 Nov 2020 14:34
MrW wrote: …Last 3 or 4 years I've trained using heart rate, when I started it seemed counter-intuitive to run slowly to keep HR down but it works. Speedwork and interval sessions work wonders, but so do long slower runs. Going all out all the time is the best way to put yourself out of action.
Yep - I train solely using HR now (although your Strava times are impressive if you're purely doing that, MrW Cool ) as age creeps up on me - now it feels just as good simply getting the miles in as it used to do doing sub 8 min miles for a 5 or 6 mile run.
macca
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279 posts since 28/10/09

posted 27 Nov 2020 16:03, edited 27 Nov 2020 16:03
bungleski wrote: Thanks ODB & Macca for the input. Pretty much only been doing 5k runs, but could start mixing up with a weekly longer run and hill sprints. How long should I aim for a longer run? 10k? Reckon I could manage that at a slower pace.


I wouldn’t do anything to drastic to start with
If you feel 10km is adequate then go for that, look to increase that long run 1-1.5 miles per week if you have managed the previous weeks long run effort say building up to a half?

The more you do the stronger and better you will become, nice comfortable aerobic pace nothing straining especially if you’re adding one or 2 “sessions” a week into you’re running plan, remember and recover well the days after a harder effort, recovery runs are great and I’d normally do them off HR than pace, do the usual foam rolling, replenishing fluid etc and you’ll see everything coming together
I’ll never start a session with a stretch there’s varied opinions on stretching I always find a warm up and some mobility drills better
bungleski
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376 posts since 21/7/11

27 Nov 2020 20:05
Gonna try for a 7.5k next week. If I get on alright I’ll up it to 10. Due to home life & work I rarely get the chance to go out for a run more than 4 times a week, so I’ll need to make them count.
Impressive performances all round in here though, great stuff!
macca
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279 posts since 28/10/09

27 Nov 2020 21:29
Sounds good
Need to let us know how you get on.
ODB
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3487 posts since 21/6/06

27 Nov 2020 22:57
bungleski wrote: Gonna try for a 7.5k next week. If I get on alright I’ll up it to 10. Due to home life & work I rarely get the chance to go out for a run more than 4 times a week, so I’ll need to make them count.
Impressive performances all round in here though, great stuff!
bungleski wrote: Gonna try for a 7.5k next week. If I get on alright I’ll up it to 10. Due to home life & work I rarely get the chance to go out for a run more than 4 times a week, so I’ll need to make them count.
Impressive performances all round in here though, great stuff!
Class getting the chance to run at all Laughing out loud
d_low
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808 posts since 20/8/10

27 Nov 2020 23:19
timmbo wrote: Zoom, you’re an electrician aren’t you? Not being sat at a desk all day will mean you’re probably a lot stronger than an office worker (hip flexors not tight, shoulders not pulled forward, glutes haven’t atrophied etc), so you’ve been fine clocking up the miles. Anyone with an office job will have lots of weaknesses/imbalances they have to compensate for and be more prone to injury. Doing some light stretching before/after a run won’t be enough - dedicated sessions for flexibility and strength are needed.

That's my problem. My body is fucked from sitting. It frustrates me because I have the lung and endurance fitness from mountain biking (also another contributor to shortening my hip flexors) but running is a whole other world. I've had so many injuries over the years. When work closed in March I upped my running and got comfortable doing 2-3 10k's in the week and a 20k on the weekend. Then I got hit with shin splints.

Anyone have any idea why every single time I run now, the area between my lower calf and achilles (might be my soleus?) seizes up compeltely after 1-2km and I have to walk. Completely ruining my runs. I stretch and warm up. Have taken time off. Taken it easy. Have properly fitted shoes. Nothing works. Could it be my form/gait?

https://imgur.com/a/8HyguN6

My balance is off, I bob up and down too much apparently wasting energy, my cadence is terrible. Could any of this affect my tightness?
timmbo
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3443 posts since 9/2/10

28 Nov 2020 08:43
Try and apply the running form tips from here

macca
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279 posts since 28/10/09

28 Nov 2020 10:38
Maybe the area (lower) leg needs strengthened have you done any work to support calfs etc?
Have you done any core work to to help stability? There’s also some good balance work that would improve technique
All can be done relatively easy in house with little or no equipment

Are you running relaxed enough? Body etc?