General Discussion: The Running Thread


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Rirawin
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9474 posts since 17/7/05

12 May 2013 11:29
I'm thinking to get a basic watch for interval training and I'm currently looking at something like the cheaper Timex Ironmans. Any other recommendations around the £50 or less mark? Or should I push the boat out and get a Garmin so I can do away with running with my iPhone 5? My only gripe would be is that the Garmin doesn't integrate too well with Nike+. I could link it with Endomondo but the GUI isn't as nice as Nike+ in presenting the data, plus it's plagued with adverts unless you subscribe.

Additionally, the reason why I'm thinking to switch to a watch is, as like you Burt, I find running with it strapped to my arm (I use a tunebelt) a little annoying after some distance. Not to mention if you get caught in a down pour (as I did yesterday) there's a good chance of getting your phone wet - even if you put it in your jacket pocket the DWR on those Nike jackets are only good in light rain.

Thoughts and opinions?
Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

12 May 2013 13:54
Pretty sure the general consensus is Garmin however I agree, the presentation of data isn't brilliant in comparison to Nike+. On the positive side, the amount of data on Nike+ pales into comparison to Garmin, as MrW mentioned, the only issue that you might have is that you could find yourself becoming stat obsessed but (personally) I don't see that as being a bad thing especially as it'll provide the knock on effect of improving performance.
Rirawin
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9474 posts since 17/7/05

12 May 2013 18:57
Cheers, I'm going to push the boat out a little and get a Garmin Forerunner 10 after reading a review of it on DCrainmaker it looks like it meets my basic requirements (virtual pacer and walk/run function are added bonuses). I was tempted by the Timex Global Trainer, but being the brand whore I am, I'll go for the Garmin and at the same time save £40.
MrW
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2928 posts since 1/8/11

12 May 2013 19:26
Not had any experience of using Nike+ but garminconnect is decent enough, easy to load and analyze data and no ads. It might not have a slick UI but I'd rather have decent stats over nice presentation Eye-wink Garmin also do some decent apps for iphone so you can track your data on there.

My run from earlier today to give you an idea of garminconnect.

FR10 reviews on wiggle look all good too Cool
Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

12 May 2013 21:04
Cheers, Rira. I think I'm sold on the FR10.

Thanks MrW - good average pace for the 5 too Cool
Rirawin
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9474 posts since 17/7/05

16 May 2013 20:17

£87 from simplyrun.co.uk, was the cheapest I could source it within the UK.

Really light and it's definitely a nice upgrade/replacement to the iPhone - at least I don't have to worry about this getting wet.

As mentioned in the review and before, it's a very basic watch that has GPS. It has a basic interval training program titled "walk/run", the virtual pacer is a nice addition, that some of the (older) Garmin models lack this feature. They've also put in "average pace" with the firmware update, which apparently was overlooked before release.

Obviously there are pitfalls, mainly the 5 hour battery life (5 week standby) so not ideal for a slowish marathon runner. No heart rate monitor and you can't link a footpod to it. Also not suitable for a triathlon as it's pretty much useless for cyclists. Nevertheless it meets my own requirements and comes in just over budget. I really don't think I'm ready to drop £100+ on a running/sports watch yet. I'll leave that for the pros Eye-wink
Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

16 May 2013 20:28
Cool got mine on the way
TonyL4
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1173 posts since 28/12/10

17 May 2013 08:56
Suffering with my back resulting in no training for the great north run in September. Is it still possible ?

A mate of mine who moved to Oz a lardarse is currently doing this run for charity. Immense effort and kind of puts me to shame Sad

https://www.facebook.com/CoastToCoastRunAlbanyToCottesloe?ref=stream
CrunK
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1083 posts since 15/12/10

17 May 2013 09:29
Has anyone on here done a triathlon before? Got one coming up in a month and a have a couple of questions.
Trystero
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1625 posts since 1/8/07

17 May 2013 10:48
Speaking of Garmins, I'm selling this if anyone is interested

Garmin Forerunner 310XT with Heart Rate Monitor, charger, manual and USB ANT stick.
Al in perfect working order. Asking £100 (normally go for around £130 used on ebay)


MrW
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2928 posts since 1/8/11

17 May 2013 10:48
Cool Rirawin, I'm mrw_y2k on garminconnect if you want to connect (no homo)

Tony, you've still got 4 months so easily doable, some 16 week plans here and here, maybe look at 12 week plans though in case you do pick up any injuries. I've had bad back problems before, best thing I've found is keeping as active as possible, and spend at least 10 mins stretching before and after every run.
aitch
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8923 posts since 19/8/07

17 May 2013 10:59
CrunK wrote: Has anyone on here done a triathlon before? Got one coming up in a month and a have a couple of questions.

Done a few, sprint and olympic. Which one are you doing?
TonyL4
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1173 posts since 28/12/10

17 May 2013 11:40
MrW wrote: Cool Rirawin, I'm mrw_y2k on garminconnect if you want to connect (no homo)

Tony, you've still got 4 months so easily doable, some 16 week plans here and here, maybe look at 12 week plans though in case you do pick up any injuries. I've had bad back problems before, best thing I've found is keeping as active as possible, and spend at least 10 mins stretching before and after every run.


Thanks mate. I think I've got to keep it out of my head about being a hero. My mate put my name down and I received a confirmation email out of the blue. He has ran it three times and is looking to beat his 1hr 57 from last years. The furthest I've ran is about 5 miles before and I'm starting fucked this time Sad
CrunK
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1083 posts since 15/12/10

17 May 2013 12:00
aitch wrote:
CrunK wrote: Has anyone on here done a triathlon before? Got one coming up in a month and a have a couple of questions.

Done a few, sprint and olympic. Which one are you doing?

Great, PM'd
Hello World
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12151 posts since 7/3/05

17 May 2013 21:46
Not ran for 18 months, last two weeks Ive been doing 1 day per week when I have the time, been able to do 8 to 9 miles to richmond park and back, around 80 minutes of jogging.

i'm surprised how much my cardio has maintained and how quickly it is getting back to my old endurance (nearly 8 years since my 40 to 50 miles per week days), admittedly I do train for around 15 to 20 minutes every day, stretching / bodyweight stuff etc, but cardio at all.

hoping to get back to basics of half marathon 1:30 pace, as my friend is doing training for a marathon next year and needs a bit of help.

I dont use music or tech kit, music spoils your pacing, if you get that under control makes life much easier to use minimum energy and max distance.
kid unknown
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5446 posts since 8/12/01

18 May 2013 09:09
FR10 for cheapness

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/garmin-forerunner-10-reduced-code-79-tesco-direct-1555456
Rirawin
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9474 posts since 17/7/05

18 May 2013 13:49
Personal preference but I find running without music a little dull. Haven't found it having any adverse affect to my pacing, especially now since I'm running with a watch I can easily see my current pace.

Oh for those Nike+ users you can import your Garmin runs to your Nike+ account using:

http://www.awsmithson.com/tcx2nikeplus/

Tip: To import the GPS mapping data use the import/activity method rather than uploading the TCX file.
MoB
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37039 posts since 31/8/04

18 May 2013 13:57
Nice one Rir, always been out off garmin stuff due to my loyalty to my nike+ account Cool
gonzoking
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822 posts since 13/3/11

18 May 2013 16:32
Wanted some opinions on this, I've always ran with my iphone running the runkeeper app, however just got a garmin the forerunner 610 so today ran with both, the garmin got me to the end of a 10km run which is when I stopped but the iphone recorded me only running 9.8km, which is likely the more accurate one?
Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

18 May 2013 17:39
Couple of reviews that I've read comparing iPhone to Garmin GPS consistently say that the Garmin is more accurate. I'll see if I can dig out the comparison pic that I saw recently.

edit - Pic is HERE but it's actually an Android -v- Garmin comparison unfortunately.