General Discussion: The Running Thread


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smith
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10945 posts since 5/5/04

9 Feb 2020 22:43
I have just accepted calf pain is part and parcel of running regularly now. Ive managed to reduce mine somewhat by foam rolling with one of those star shaped ones which us brutal but hits all the right spots. Take it to the gym and foam roll cross legged for more pressure on the power plate so it massages at the same time. Also key to foam roll after every run.
Essence
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3111 posts since 10/1/05

10 Feb 2020 22:48
smith wrote: I have just accepted calf pain is part and parcel of running regularly now. Ive managed to reduce mine somewhat by foam rolling with one of those star shaped ones which us brutal but hits all the right spots. Take it to the gym and foam roll cross legged for more pressure on the power plate so it massages at the same time. Also key to foam roll after every run.

Probably a sign of a weakness elsewhere. James Dunne does a very good 30 day challenge. Will help identify any specific weaknesses you have.

https://www.kinetic-revolution.com/about-me/
shields88
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464 posts since 25/5/11

11 Feb 2020 18:14
Have you tried some specific strength / mobility work geared towards running? There's a guy on insta I follow called Harvey Lawton who specialises in this. Think his program is like £40 for 12 weeks.

What about compression socks that go over the calf? They could work.
shields88
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464 posts since 25/5/11

11 Feb 2020 18:16
Burt wrote:
timmbo wrote: How many miles does everyone put in to their shoes before binning them?
300-400, timmbo. You'll be done in a coupla months, pal Eye-wink

I usually just run in mine until I have rubbed through the sole a bit Laughing out loud
Seventyfour
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9020 posts since 6/10/05

17 Feb 2020 12:22
Done 10k this morning, slow but to say I didn't run at all up till about 3 weeks ago I'm really pleased
Seventyfour
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9020 posts since 6/10/05

18 Feb 2020 12:42
OK after yesterday's effort my knees feel fucked today, in the earlier stages of my runs I can feel every step shudder through me Laughing out loud
I'm 5.11 91kg wearing Nike zoom fly.
Would I benefit from getting decent insoles and socks or should I be looking at more plush shoes, obviously loosing weight would help but that's why I'm running.
seenmy
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6584 posts since 17/6/06

18 Feb 2020 13:03
I think not going 0-10k in 3 weeks is the main thing, thats a lot of stress on anyones body regardless of weight, just because you can does not mean you should, I had knee trouble when I started due to pushing to quick up to 5km. my suggestion is pull back run short and regular to build up muscle memory and condition your body.

I don use some sports tape to support my knees at the time which felt like it helped but other said its really a bit of a placebo
LFC
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4587 posts since 14/6/11

18 Feb 2020 13:28
Yeah that’s a lot of distance for a first run.

I started early January doing 2-3 mile every other day after not exercising for probably 10+ years. I’m 6’2 and 108kg’s and it’s hard lugging yourself around. My knees were fucked at first but feel tuns better now and don’t really ache the day after.

Feel so much better for doing it. Was getting out of breath walking up a set of stairs at work Oops
Seventyfour
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9020 posts since 6/10/05

posted 18 Feb 2020 13:59, edited 18 Feb 2020 13:59
That's not my fist run I've done about 15 started at about 2 mile and worked up, to be fair its probably been closer to a month than three week. I do also do a 4 day weight split in the gym with the odd spinning class thrown in so I'm not that out of shape, just never really run due to having a bad back but I have managed to strengthen my core up a fair bit and no back problems so far touch wood.
My knees feel better now as the days going on and not really in pain just feel weird and week almost like they could snap backwards if I'm not careful Laughing out loud if that makes sense.

And yeah I feel loads better too
LFC
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4587 posts since 14/6/11

18 Feb 2020 14:16
Sorry I misread. Thought you’d just got up and thought fuck it I’ll do 10k Laughing out loud
Seventyfour
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9020 posts since 6/10/05

posted 18 Feb 2020 14:48, edited 18 Feb 2020 14:48
Laughing out loud

first run I had to stop and walk for a minute after about 3 minutes Laughing out loud
seenmy
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6584 posts since 17/6/06

18 Feb 2020 15:14
a month is still a small timeframe to go from running 0 to running 10k, I would also suggest where possible run on grass/trail rather than on the road (obviously difficult with current weather) but it does reduce the strain
Seventyfour
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9020 posts since 6/10/05

posted 18 Feb 2020 17:39, edited 18 Feb 2020 17:39
What would you suggest then distance and frequency? I won't be on grass much yet if I'm honest, I haven't bought any trail shoes yet, you've got me really intrigued in hoka One though do you wear the roads models too?
seenmy
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6584 posts since 17/6/06

20 Feb 2020 17:06
I'm no expert for sure but I think looking trying to run regular and just adding the distances each week, probably at the start not more than 1-2k at a time and every 3rd week or so drop back a few km, then push on again, I guess it really depends if you want to run long distance or if your goal is really just to run 10k kind of distance. in the initial phase its just conditioning your body to take the strain and get used to it

I use the hokas (speedgoat) for most of my winter run, but I try to run as much as i can in the woods/parks obviously there's a good amount of road getting to and from, but they are a good balance and ive been running in them for 6-7 years

as soon as its dry out and the ground firms up ill switch back to nike next or likely the alpha fly if i can get it, as in terms of speed these are just on a totally different level to anything else ive ever tried well worth the ££££

Fläsket
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3761 posts since 14/8/04

posted 23 Feb 2020 01:11, edited 23 Feb 2020 01:11
Hokas have been the cure for my niggling knee pain man.
The Bondi model has served me too well. Put a little over 1000 miles on my last ones. May have to give the Speedgoats a go for more grip on the snow.

As far as increasing distance, I think Rirawin said no more than 10% each week.

Supposedly after 90 miles in a pair of Alpha Fly's the advantage begins to diminish since the foam breaks down/becomes less responsive. Folks do three marathons in a pair and then demote them to training shoes.
Richgee
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49 posts since 26/4/15

23 Feb 2020 05:13
Seventyfour wrote: What would you suggest then distance and frequency? I won't be on grass much yet if I'm honest, I haven't bought any trail shoes yet, you've got me really intrigued in hoka One though do you wear the roads models too?

I know it feels like a step back but I'd do the couch to 5k , it's a great way to get your legs and feet running ready. It is only a few weeks but running stresses all sorts of bits you weren't expecting.

While I love trail running i think what you make up in springy ground you lose in Bobby ness on your ankles and it is also harder to get to a speed to increase your aerobic threshold.
shields88
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464 posts since 25/5/11

posted 23 Feb 2020 12:56, edited 23 Feb 2020 12:56
Working on getting my HR down during runs. 8 miles this morning at around a 9 min mile pace at 143bpm.
I'll be very happy if I can get my time down to 7.30 min miles sub 150bpm for my half ironman at the end of September.

Also happy with this considering I only started running again properly 5 weeks ago.

Its a mental battle sometimes just wanting to run faster but knowing its not as productive.
figurine
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5895 posts since 14/5/07

24 Feb 2020 12:48
Any recommendations for decent running socks? Normally just wear Decathlon socks but find I go through them fairly quickly, so something that lasts well but still looks good would be ideal.
smith
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10945 posts since 5/5/04

24 Feb 2020 13:27
Ive gone from running socks, to bball socks for extra padding and now I'm using dickies industrial socks because they are thick as fuck. Maybe not ideal for summer and long runs I know but all that extra padding is what I was after as have narrow feet.

https://www.dickiesworkwear.com/uk/dickies-industrial-work-socks-dck00010s
seenmy
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6584 posts since 17/6/06

24 Feb 2020 13:28
https://www.nike.com/gb/t/elite-cushioned-ankle-running-socks-V6rCZK/SX7281-010
i think this is the current version of what I use, I like the weight of these and cushion is really nice, wear these everyday for everything