General Discussion: The Running Thread


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andymakesglasses
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20501 posts since 26/1/06

9 Dec 2020 09:44
Cool
MrW
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2935 posts since 1/8/11

9 Dec 2020 09:58
Nice work Timmbo Cool First one combined with those conditions, great result just to get over the line.

Copped this the other day for winter running. 1hr run last night @ 7:30mile pace, temp around 1-2c with only a thin base layer tee underneath and it was perfect. Weighs next to nothing, feels like you're covered by an invisible layer of warmth but never felt clammy or sweaty.

wembly
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570 posts since 15/1/13

9 Dec 2020 11:21
I'm looking for some running shoes with good arch and ankle support which are not narrow. The boost technology etc. are way to soft for me. Any recommendations?
Davinho
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2331 posts since 2/12/08

9 Dec 2020 11:28
Asics kayano are some of the best for that.
zoom
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6548 posts since 22/7/05

9 Dec 2020 11:36
MrW wrote:

Any links mate?
generic_guy
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9746 posts since 16/9/02

9 Dec 2020 11:37
Great work Timmbo, and zoom getting a 30k in Cool
MrW
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2935 posts since 1/8/11

9 Dec 2020 11:49
zoom wrote: Any links mate?

That's the jacket, sold out in that colour.

https://www.gorewear.com/uk/en-uk/r5-gore-tex-infinium-insulated-jacket-100665.html

Got an L in white / yellow I'm backing if interested.

Essence
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3119 posts since 10/1/05

9 Dec 2020 14:15
smith wrote:
Essence wrote:
kid unknown wrote: Bit surprised at the reluctance to run outside in all weathers.

I quite like running in the rain or snow. Icy pavements is the main thing that puts me off.

I was a late starter but thinking back I was definitely guilty of going for speed over distance.

For anyone with not much time I would recommend short and hilly routes. I get bored if no hills as feels like running on flat requires little effort.

I stopped road running a few years ago. Mainly do trail running now when fit. Did my first Ultra last year Lakeland 50 was a great day out.

I did some trail running this morning and even though it was bitterly cold and a mudpit for a lot of the route I really enjoyed it. Liked the fact I didn't pass a single person for the whole route too and felt at one with nature. Definitely going to hit the trail routes hard this winter now.

Nothing beats it - i've done a few races during the night in all weather conditions and it really is liberating. Best condition is snow make sure to get out if it snows this winter.
smith
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11098 posts since 5/5/04

9 Dec 2020 14:34
My new trail runners came today. Went for wildhorse 6 over the pegasus as heard they fit snug and I have narrow fit. Grip looks good to me. Would love some snow now to run in. Cool

Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

9 Dec 2020 15:25
Nice Cool

I've got some Wildhorse that I picked up in the sale about 6 months ago. The new Pegasus Trail surpasses them in terms of grip (and comfort) I reckon which tbh is a shame as Nike don't really do a trainer that encompasses both trail and tarmac (like the old Peg Trail did) now. Have 4 pairs of the old Peg Trail - such a great shoe for putting miles in.
smith
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11098 posts since 5/5/04

9 Dec 2020 15:42
Always wanted the OG pegasus 36 but it was a popular one and struggled to find them in my size. Got these for a good price in the sale so will keep. Still might get the trail 2s as they do look good.
16simon
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564 posts since 21/4/11

9 Dec 2020 15:44
I thought the old Peg Trail was good for dry conditions (on or off road) but a bit limited in the wet as it slides easily on wet tarmac and the lugs aren't deep enough to grip on muddy trails.

Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.

That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
jplxx
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1649 posts since 3/11/09

9 Dec 2020 16:30
My first half. Chuffed with myself. Well done everyone else too. Keep it up.
swiftus
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1301 posts since 1/7/09

9 Dec 2020 16:43
Running most nights in the Pegasus 36 Shield. Really like them for the wet and cold, grip is great. Can't imagine doing more than 10k in them though.

Essence
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3119 posts since 10/1/05

9 Dec 2020 22:59
16simon wrote: I thought the old Peg Trail was good for dry conditions (on or off road) but a bit limited in the wet as it slides easily on wet tarmac and the lugs aren't deep enough to grip on muddy trails.

Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.

That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.

You looked at Hoka - the challenger is a decent go between shoe.
16simon
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564 posts since 21/4/11

9 Dec 2020 23:03
Thanks Essence, I'll have a look at that
Essence
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3119 posts since 10/1/05

9 Dec 2020 23:24
16simon wrote: Thanks Essence, I'll have a look at that

Problem is a go between is always going to be best suited for hard packed trails. Inov8 offer alot of options - i have no issue personally with a 4mm-5mm lug on tarmac. My winter shoes / fell shoes are all inov8 but my daily shoes and favourites for longer runs and better conditions are Hoka! mainly the speedgoat and torrent.
swiftus
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1301 posts since 1/7/09

10 Dec 2020 08:42
Can someone help answer a question that's been bugging me for ages…?

I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers? Most of them wear Nike. Obvs sponsorship is a massive thing, but would an elite athlete sacrifice shaving seconds off their best time (i.e. by wearing better trainers from Hoka, etc. vs Nike) against more £££? I'm sure if Kipchoge went over to Hoka and said, "I want to wear your trainers, sponsor me", Hoka would agree (albeit not to the same £££ as Nike).

Other factors I can think of are:
- elite athletes don't have the same requirements from their trainers as your average Joe
- many have trained in Nike their whole life (sponsored from a young age), so they are just used to them
- they wear different brands for training vs race-day (unlikely, I know)

For reference, Nike dominate the men's world (prob even more so now because of Vaporflys):
https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2018/11/shoes-of-the-winners-of-the-2018-world-marathon-majors-infographic/

Womens is surprisingly more balanced. Still no Hoka/On
MrW
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2935 posts since 1/8/11

10 Dec 2020 09:09
Essence wrote: You looked at Hoka - the challenger is a decent go between shoe.

Have you tried the Challenger ATR Gore-Tex? Been using Hokas (Arahi) for a few years now but after something more robust and water-resistant for winter & off-road, Challengers currently top of the list.
MrW
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2935 posts since 1/8/11

10 Dec 2020 09:12
swiftus wrote: I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers?

They do.

https://www.hokaoneone.eu/en/gb/jan-frodeno.html