General Discussion: The Running Thread
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9 Dec 2020 09:58
9 Dec 2020 11:49
That's the jacket, sold out in that colour.
https://www.gorewear.com/uk/en-uk/r5-gore-tex-infinium-insulated-jacket-100665.html
Got an L in white / yellow I'm backing if interested.
9 Dec 2020 14:15
I stopped road running a few years ago. Mainly do trail running now when fit. Did my first Ultra last year Lakeland 50 was a great day out.
I did some trail running this morning and even though it was bitterly cold and a mudpit for a lot of the route I really enjoyed it. Liked the fact I didn't pass a single person for the whole route too and felt at one with nature. Definitely going to hit the trail routes hard this winter now.
Nothing beats it - i've done a few races during the night in all weather conditions and it really is liberating. Best condition is snow make sure to get out if it snows this winter.
9 Dec 2020 15:25
9 Dec 2020 15:44
9 Dec 2020 22:59
You looked at Hoka - the challenger is a decent go between shoe.
9 Dec 2020 23:24
Problem is a go between is always going to be best suited for hard packed trails. Inov8 offer alot of options - i have no issue personally with a 4mm-5mm lug on tarmac. My winter shoes / fell shoes are all inov8 but my daily shoes and favourites for longer runs and better conditions are Hoka! mainly the speedgoat and torrent.
10 Dec 2020 08:42
10 Dec 2020 09:12
They do.
https://www.hokaoneone.eu/en/gb/jan-frodeno.html
Nice work Timmbo First one combined with those conditions, great result just to get over the line.
Copped this the other day for winter running. 1hr run last night @ 7:30mile pace, temp around 1-2c with only a thin base layer tee underneath and it was perfect. Weighs next to nothing, feels like you're covered by an invisible layer of warmth but never felt clammy or sweaty.
First one combined with those conditions, great result just to get over the line.Copped this the other day for winter running. 1hr run last night @ 7:30mile pace, temp around 1-2c with only a thin base layer tee underneath and it was perfect. Weighs next to nothing, feels like you're covered by an invisible layer of warmth but never felt clammy or sweaty.
Any links mate?
That's the jacket, sold out in that colour.
https://www.gorewear.com/uk/en-uk/r5-gore-tex-infinium-insulated-jacket-100665.html
Got an L in white / yellow I'm backing if interested.
Bit surprised at the reluctance to run outside in all weathers.
I quite like running in the rain or snow. Icy pavements is the main thing that puts me off.
I was a late starter but thinking back I was definitely guilty of going for speed over distance.
For anyone with not much time I would recommend short and hilly routes. I get bored if no hills as feels like running on flat requires little effort.
I quite like running in the rain or snow. Icy pavements is the main thing that puts me off.
I was a late starter but thinking back I was definitely guilty of going for speed over distance.
For anyone with not much time I would recommend short and hilly routes. I get bored if no hills as feels like running on flat requires little effort.
I stopped road running a few years ago. Mainly do trail running now when fit. Did my first Ultra last year Lakeland 50 was a great day out.
I did some trail running this morning and even though it was bitterly cold and a mudpit for a lot of the route I really enjoyed it. Liked the fact I didn't pass a single person for the whole route too and felt at one with nature. Definitely going to hit the trail routes hard this winter now.
Nothing beats it - i've done a few races during the night in all weather conditions and it really is liberating. Best condition is snow make sure to get out if it snows this winter.
Nice
I've got some Wildhorse that I picked up in the sale about 6 months ago. The new Pegasus Trail surpasses them in terms of grip (and comfort) I reckon which tbh is a shame as Nike don't really do a trainer that encompasses both trail and tarmac (like the old Peg Trail did) now. Have 4 pairs of the old Peg Trail - such a great shoe for putting miles in.
I've got some Wildhorse that I picked up in the sale about 6 months ago. The new Pegasus Trail surpasses them in terms of grip (and comfort) I reckon which tbh is a shame as Nike don't really do a trainer that encompasses both trail and tarmac (like the old Peg Trail did) now. Have 4 pairs of the old Peg Trail - such a great shoe for putting miles in.
I thought the old Peg Trail was good for dry conditions (on or off road) but a bit limited in the wet as it slides easily on wet tarmac and the lugs aren't deep enough to grip on muddy trails.
Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.
That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.
That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
I thought the old Peg Trail was good for dry conditions (on or off road) but a bit limited in the wet as it slides easily on wet tarmac and the lugs aren't deep enough to grip on muddy trails.
Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.
That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
Am still looking for the perfect road/trail shoe, but I suppose they'll always be a compromise.
That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
You looked at Hoka - the challenger is a decent go between shoe.
Thanks Essence, I'll have a look at that
Problem is a go between is always going to be best suited for hard packed trails. Inov8 offer alot of options - i have no issue personally with a 4mm-5mm lug on tarmac. My winter shoes / fell shoes are all inov8 but my daily shoes and favourites for longer runs and better conditions are Hoka! mainly the speedgoat and torrent.
Can someone help answer a question that's been bugging me for ages…?
I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers? Most of them wear Nike. Obvs sponsorship is a massive thing, but would an elite athlete sacrifice shaving seconds off their best time (i.e. by wearing better trainers from Hoka, etc. vs Nike) against more £££? I'm sure if Kipchoge went over to Hoka and said, "I want to wear your trainers, sponsor me", Hoka would agree (albeit not to the same £££ as Nike).
Other factors I can think of are:
- elite athletes don't have the same requirements from their trainers as your average Joe
- many have trained in Nike their whole life (sponsored from a young age), so they are just used to them
- they wear different brands for training vs race-day (unlikely, I know)
For reference, Nike dominate the men's world (prob even more so now because of Vaporflys):
https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2018/11/shoes-of-the-winners-of-the-2018-world-marathon-majors-infographic/
Womens is surprisingly more balanced. Still no Hoka/On
I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers? Most of them wear Nike. Obvs sponsorship is a massive thing, but would an elite athlete sacrifice shaving seconds off their best time (i.e. by wearing better trainers from Hoka, etc. vs Nike) against more £££? I'm sure if Kipchoge went over to Hoka and said, "I want to wear your trainers, sponsor me", Hoka would agree (albeit not to the same £££ as Nike).
Other factors I can think of are:
- elite athletes don't have the same requirements from their trainers as your average Joe
- many have trained in Nike their whole life (sponsored from a young age), so they are just used to them
- they wear different brands for training vs race-day (unlikely, I know)
For reference, Nike dominate the men's world (prob even more so now because of Vaporflys):
https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2018/11/shoes-of-the-winners-of-the-2018-world-marathon-majors-infographic/
Womens is surprisingly more balanced. Still no Hoka/On
I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers?
They do.
https://www.hokaoneone.eu/en/gb/jan-frodeno.html
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