General Discussion: The Running Thread


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ODB
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posted 11 Dec 2020 09:55, edited 11 Dec 2020 09:55
Might have hit nail on head for me lol, I only wear the garmin for run, then switch to Apple, so probs no idea what my RHR is
Do fancy upgrade on Garmin as I like it
Side note, 10k this morning and 960 cals
Kadafi39
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1906 posts since 30/10/09

11 Dec 2020 10:48
ODB wrote: that site says
Calories burned: 1786
400 odd of a differance
fuk knows then man

I'd guess 17-1800 would be more accurate, I was asking as 1300 cals for 13 miles seems low to me, unless you are some skin and bones type of iron man.
willesdengreen
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638 posts since 10/6/10

11 Dec 2020 11:51
swiftus wrote:
willesdengreen wrote:
swiftus wrote:
MrW wrote:
swiftus wrote: I understand that companies like Hoka, On, Brooks, Asics, etc. are specialist running trainer brands. So how comes none of the world's top elite athletes wear their trainers?

They do.

https://www.hokaoneone.eu/en/gb/jan-frodeno.html

Trying to find a list of other athletes Hoka sponsor, but not having any luck. Looks like Jan Frodeno moved over recently from Asics to Hoka. The fact that they have a separate page for him on their site makes me think he's an exception rather than the rule (why would they highlight just him if they have a portfolio of world class athletes).

Another infographic, more recent:
https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2019/11/nike-vaporfly-shoes-claim-31-out-of-36-podiums-in-2019-world-marathon-majors/

Edit: Just to add, I'm not pro-Nike, or anti-Hoka/On/etc. Just interested in this.

same reason that every skater's footwear is sponsored by adidas, nike or vans and not any of the smaller skate brands around in the 90s and 00s

i don't know this for sure, but would guess sponsorship is probably primary income for many athletes and nike / adidas obviously have deeper pockets

Agree with the 'sponsorship is probably primary income for many athletes' statement. For the elite athletes, do you think they're willing to give up a gold medal for it (if the 'right' trainers shave seconds off your time)?

I'm not convinced by the comparison to skateboarding. Footwear is not a large contribution to a top skateboarder's ability, compared to footwear for a runner. I'm not a skateboarder, but I imagine that if changed an elite skateboarder's trainers from Vans to the 5/6th best brand out there for skateboarding trainers, they'd still be top of their game, with little/no impact on their performance.

Unless you're saying the trainers don't make that much difference to elite runners? Which I'd disagree with as well.

this is likely true. nike + adidas must make footwear that performs well at the highest level.

of the very few times i've been in independent, specialist running shops, they always advise to steer clear from nike/adidas and even asics in favour of brooks, hoka, etc.

not sure why this is - maybe the smaller specialist brands offer better value for money at the lower to mid price points
Kadafi39
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1906 posts since 30/10/09

11 Dec 2020 12:01
Possibly because the margin on the smaller brands is much higher than nike/adidas who's products sell themselves.
ODB
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3560 posts since 21/6/06

11 Dec 2020 12:03
Kadafi39 wrote:
ODB wrote: that site says
Calories burned: 1786
400 odd of a differance
fuk knows then man

I'd guess 17-1800 would be more accurate, I was asking as 1300 cals for 13 miles seems low to me, unless you are some skin and bones type of iron man.
Not yet
wembly
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571 posts since 15/1/13

11 Dec 2020 18:00
Davinho wrote: Asics kayano are some of the best for that.

thanks mate! will have a look
generic_guy
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9821 posts since 16/9/02

11 Dec 2020 18:18
I use the Nike + app and the calories burned seemed excessive, realised when I went to update my stats that I’d put 34 stone as my weight Laughing out loud
ODB
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11 Dec 2020 18:40
appreciate anyone can help
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macca
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280 posts since 28/10/09

posted 12 Dec 2020 14:23, edited 12 Dec 2020 14:23
Watches are off the preset hr of 220 - you’re age aren’t they?

Saying that not everyone will have the same heart rate even grouped within you’re age bracket or runners of you’re ability

Maximal oxygen test/vo2 is the only way to get a proper accurate reading of where you are I’ve always thought?

Lack of Rest, not being hydrate, stress, running conditions even volume of load/distance etc can effect

Is there anything else anyone can shed on it?
Feel it’s a bit of a rabbit hole or can be if you don’t have the proper numbers
I’ll do my harder session with a Hr monitor the rest just by watch

MrW
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2954 posts since 1/8/11

13 Dec 2020 15:41
16simon wrote: That Infinium jacket looks lovely I need something like that as my Shakedry is great in the rain but not so good in the cold.
It's great in cold & wind (I reckon above 5-6c it could be too warm) but found today it's not great in rain. Anything more than light showers you're probably better off with Shakedry and a decent base layer.
smith
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11140 posts since 5/5/04

13 Dec 2020 17:34
ODB wrote: Half today,

I felt inspired by this. I'm 38 and did my first half marathon this morning. Never gone a distance of more than 10km before. Not going to lie, the last 5km I wanted to die and my feet were really hurting but did manage to complete it. Said I burnt 1473 calories. No idea if that's good or not. I've been eating all day to put the weight back on.Sticking out tongue
zoom
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13 Dec 2020 17:42
Cool great work mate.
generic_guy
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9821 posts since 16/9/02

13 Dec 2020 17:55
Smith Cool
MrW
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13 Dec 2020 18:01
Cool smith

smith
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11140 posts since 5/5/04

13 Dec 2020 19:01
jplxx posting his half marathon time also inspired me. Cool

I won't post my time as not as fast as that Smiling
Blofeld
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239 posts since 30/12/15

13 Dec 2020 19:26
well in, Smith
ODB
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3560 posts since 21/6/06

posted 13 Dec 2020 22:52, edited 13 Dec 2020 22:52
smith Cool
waterfall
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13 Dec 2020 22:58
Good work! Cool
velvet
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9558 posts since 12/6/06

posted 16 Dec 2020 18:47, edited 16 Dec 2020 18:47
I have been doing some trail running recently, moving off road. Can’t beat it.

Picked up a pair of Nike Pegasus Trail 2 for off road runs and they feel like wellies lol, been running in Nike epic reacts for the last 12 months

How do you keep your running shoes smelling good? Mine always smell so bad
ODB
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3560 posts since 21/6/06

16 Dec 2020 19:45
Would mind knowing this either
Doesn’t help they get soaked most runs