picked these up today in store, top fit for the money

http://shop.carhartt-wip.com/gb/men/shorts/5pocketshorts/I014577/klondike-short-ii?rcmid=b59d0220-c661-11e3-a64d-6c626dd55bfa

None of mine are shit. Dont wear the cargo ones anymore, but they werent ever shit back in the day. Not one pair is shit, just cos they are ralph and paul smith etc, and not some wierd trendy brand, doesn't make them shit to normal people not trying really hard to be cool.

Cool. They hit above the knee?

look decent those but not spending 2 ton

yeah above the knee, worth going in store to check, few different styles

Are they modern amusement the ones with the bird on? Used to love that brand for summer clothes when it was going.

Ordered them too, they've just put out a discount code straight after my order though

these will be similar once you cut off an inch off them - http://topodesigns.com/collection/mountain-shorts/

Thebureau gave me the extra discount and changed my size that I incorrectly ordered

The chino shorts? Got around 6 pairs last year for holidays. Don't think there's anything better for the money. I'd say they are on a par with the Dickies ones that were £55.

Those uniqlo ones were online last week, where they went? Surely can't have sold out in every size and colour.