General Discussion: So, from tomorrow ordering from Europe costs more ...


Centurionone
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1555 posts since 30/3/11

31 Dec 2020 12:39
This is from the Yoox website

"Please note, your purchases or returns may face delays after 31 December. As required by current legislation, duty rates apply to UK orders above £135. No additional duties will be charged on delivery."
16simon
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575 posts since 21/4/11

31 Dec 2020 12:47
Shit isn't it

Quite a few EU webstores are delaying sending until after 1st Jan so no chance of getting in a final day bargain
-DiscoTits-
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919 posts since 26/11/07

posted 31 Dec 2020 12:55, edited 31 Dec 2020 12:55
The gift that keeps on giving this Brexit malarkey. I work in Norway but live in Scotland. As of next year we need to apply for a yearly residence permit in order to continue working there. 680 quid a year and my company won't pay it.
seenmy
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6642 posts since 17/6/06

31 Dec 2020 13:31
is this correct though? as it reads we have tariff free trade so the set up as of tomorrow is essentially as we had it pre brexit but from what i can see you have to fill out export info as if you were shipping to usa etc (this was going to be the case deal or no deal)

the only difference could be vat which in theory would be deducted automatically for an international order and then re charged on arrival in uk this is where we could all get fucked over by 'processing fees' from parcel force etc so i would assume most retailer will look to move to a pre pay scheme so giving uk customers a landed price to avoid this hassle , of course remains to be seen what adjustment this makes in cost.

shipping will be a totally shit show in and out of uk I reckon for next month or so, while they clear up the mess of preparing for no deal
zappa1903
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432 posts since 26/8/14

31 Dec 2020 13:55
Was going to order a top from France, the website has bumped up the free delivery now and is estimated to take 14-18 days, no where in the Uk seems to have it in stock in my size so think I will give it a miss. I think places are going to start to find ways to try and charge more like delivery. Cry
Jesus
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6059 posts since 7/10/08

31 Dec 2020 14:09
most of the big German cycle retailers have pulled the plug at the minute for shipping to the uk

andymakesglasses
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20522 posts since 26/1/06

31 Dec 2020 14:18
It's VAT rather than import duty, but yes, another great benefit of Brexit. Cool

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/28/brexit-customs-duties-to-apply-to-eu-goods-worth-more-than-390
morgan
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1114 posts since 22/2/11

posted 31 Dec 2020 14:18, edited 31 Dec 2020 14:18
seenmy wrote: is this correct though? as it reads we have tariff free trade so the set up as of tomorrow is essentially as we had it pre brexit but from what i can see you have to fill out export info as if you were shipping to usa etc (this was going to be the case deal or no deal)

the only difference could be vat which in theory would be deducted automatically for an international order and then re charged on arrival in uk this is where we could all get fucked over by 'processing fees' from parcel force etc so i would assume most retailer will look to move to a pre pay scheme so giving uk customers a landed price to avoid this hassle , of course remains to be seen what adjustment this makes in cost.

shipping will be a totally shit show in and out of uk I reckon for next month or so, while they clear up the mess of preparing for no deal


I think the fine print if it exists means that “trade” is for import and export.

Personal shopping is not “trade”.

Same with duty free now that’s back.
You buy a MacBook in Germany on holiday and you’ll get fucked for VAT at customs.

Interesting that Cultizm will waive 16% VAT if you’re outside the EU but then whack 20% back on once you change the site to UK.

That will obviously change tomorrow where we will get the 16% off but then get fucked for 20% and clearance fees at customs.

Any cunt who voted for this shit needs a fucking shovel in their face.

I’ll be doing a LOT more proxy buys from Japan as is will be cheaper and faster in most cases.

Hanto
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2775 posts since 30/11/09

31 Dec 2020 14:26
The Bureau have just posted that nothing is changing for goods going out, or in, I think, so not sure what applies when goods are coming in from the EU.
seenmy
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6642 posts since 17/6/06

31 Dec 2020 15:25
prices just went up £20 on items in my mrp basket its happening
wayward sole
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175 posts since 23/8/11

31 Dec 2020 15:27
Hanto wrote: The Bureau have just posted that nothing is changing for goods going out, or in, I think, so not sure what applies when goods are coming in from the EU.

NI will be classed as domestic for at least the next 3 months so no change.
wembly
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571 posts since 15/1/13

31 Dec 2020 15:30
Hanto wrote: The Bureau have just posted that nothing is changing for goods going out, or in, I think, so not sure what applies when goods are coming in from the EU.

that's a different case: they a part of the GB customs territory but de facto EU internal market. they have a special status for that
Robadob
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1495 posts since 29/12/04

31 Dec 2020 16:15
Ordered something from Beige Habilleur pre-Christmas, and for whatever reason UPS didn’t pick up. Beige are now closed until the 4th, so no pickup until then at the earliest. Am I screwed, or does the fact that it was bought pre-NY count for anything?
wembly
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571 posts since 15/1/13

31 Dec 2020 16:24
doesn't count! what counts is when it arrives in the country territory
morgan
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1114 posts since 22/2/11

31 Dec 2020 16:26
In the trade world anything ordered before 31st counts as EU.

Anything being imported after 1st should have a customs declaration.
UPS do all their own declarations so I reckon it will already be in their system and you’ll be ok as pre 31st even though it’s not been shipped.
Do you have tracking?
Rirawin
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9488 posts since 17/7/05

31 Dec 2020 16:28
Be interested to know if some of the Brexiteers on this forum, Dee, Rickrude, Fudge et al. are happy that this is the brexit they voted for.
morgan
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1114 posts since 22/2/11

31 Dec 2020 16:38
You know we have to just bite the fucking bullet now. It’s happened.

Anything ordered from the EU will now be VAT free.
Some things might get through so it might actually be like a lottery. We shouldn’t lose either way unless the pound tanks.

It will be like a 20% off lucky dip every time you order from the EU and a few places might even mark down
wayward sole
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175 posts since 23/8/11

posted 31 Dec 2020 16:45, edited 31 Dec 2020 16:45
morgan wrote: In the trade world anything ordered before 31st counts as EU.

Anything being imported after 1st should have a customs declaration.
UPS do all their own declarations so I reckon it will already be in their system and you’ll be ok as pre 31st even though it’s not been shipped.
Do you have tracking?

Anything which is being exported or imported today must leave or be moving by 23:00hrs. Anything after that will be subject to the new deal arrangements. If UPS havent picked up this shipment, it will need the neecessay customs declaration.
morgan
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1114 posts since 22/2/11

31 Dec 2020 16:48
Picked up doesn’t have to be literal.
If he has a tracking number this will be fine.

If it was by Royal Mail of be more worried but UPS use their own systems so it’ll be ok.
wayward sole
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175 posts since 23/8/11

31 Dec 2020 17:04
In this instance it does, the shipment may have been created as a EU to EU shipment, but after midnight UPS systems will not recognise the UK as a EU destination and therefore the product code (whatever ups use) will have to be changed. Granted some shipments will inevitability get delivered but most systems have the measures to prevent this.