General Discussion: So, from tomorrow ordering from Europe costs more ...


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YLAup
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5762 posts since 5/9/11

2 Jan 2021 20:02
I've even heard people who voted to leave on race/nationalism terms, thought that it would 'stop Pakistani's coming into the country.'
morgan
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1136 posts since 22/2/11

2 Jan 2021 20:03
In more vile terms than that though.
darko
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1065 posts since 4/10/12

2 Jan 2021 21:21
morgan wrote: Let’s be honest, a lot of it was just plain old racism.
Call it nationalism if you like but until a few Poles and Romanians arrived this wasn’t even on the radar.

The most this was about was immigration and nobody can tell me any different.
Fuck all to do with trade. You’re average Sum or Mail reader doesn’t know shit about trade.
All these dumb fuckers thought we’d send Johnny Foreigner home and there’d be millions of well paid jobs.

Well these cunts can keep dreaming because there isn’t any jobs and there won’t be after this pandemic.
As far as I’m concerned they asked for it and now they have it. Fuck em all and when the Tories start deducting their dole money and sanctioning the daft cunts in the Red Wall I for one will be happy to see them wallow in squalor.

Amen

Little old england, an island of bigots
figurine
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6022 posts since 14/5/07

2 Jan 2021 21:25
deuce wrote:
figurine wrote: Thought it was best being clear for the leave voters on here.
supporting democracy means i voted leave.
you just went from 200iq to 0iq real quick
Didn't say you did vote leave.
-DiscoTits-
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952 posts since 26/11/07

2 Jan 2021 21:39
This whole thing about making our own decisions is just utter nonsense as well. As we saw with this new strain, France was able to completely close its borders to the UK. In the same way that despite years of claiming that immigrants were coming illegally we already had the powers to be more strict on our borders than we were being. We just didn't choose to exercise them. I'm not saying the EU is perfect, far from it, but going forward the UK will simply end up rejoining the customs Union, then it'll be the single market and then it'll be rejoining the EU in 20 years or so. And this whole thing will have been a massive waste of time, effort and money. Also fully agree with what cent was saying.

My hope is that in May, Scotland overwhelmingly votes for pro independence parties in the Scot Parl and that we end up with independence soon and initially join the eea with Norway, Iceland and Lichtenstein while we build ourselves up to full EU membership again.

Even if that doesn't happen the union of the UK as we know it is finished. The 4 nations are so polarised now.
andymakesglasses
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20613 posts since 26/1/06

3 Jan 2021 09:49
R wrote: Relative free trade with the EU and increased sovereignty?

As others have already said, overnight we now have less free trade with the EU than we did before.

Our increased sovereignty allows us to do trade deals with countries smaller than the ones we were already trading with on preferential terms, starting off from a weaker bargaining point (smaller population than when negotiating as part of a larger bloc).

Our increased sovereignty will allow us to lower our standards on workers' rights, food standards, animal welfare and commitment to combating climate change. Of course our increased sovereignty would allow us to raise our standards, but is that the Government's intention do you think?

Liam Fox wrote: We're going to replicate the 40 EU free trade agreements that exist before we leave the European Union so we've got no disruption of trade.

I hear people saying 'oh we won't have any before we leave'. Well, believe me, we'll have up to 40 ready for one second after midnight in March 2019.

Remind me how that went.
phelen
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6728 posts since 16/8/06

3 Jan 2021 13:50
SO ebay are adding 20% already to items outside Europe, however, unsure why Ireland is part of this.
Hanto
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3213 posts since 30/11/09

4 Jan 2021 14:59
Right, if I am ordering from Sweden and the item is approx £300, what extra would I be paying?

Also, if I need to return, am I liable for anything?
swede
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9982 posts since 21/3/09

4 Jan 2021 15:01
I have been thinking about ordering from swe too hanto. looks like OL webstore taking 25% off their orders (swedish VAT). i assume they will then add on 20% for UK VAT (to then be sent to HMRC..) or this will be collected by customs as it arrives…

returns might be a pain though. are royal mail even shipping internationally atm?

what a shit show. keen to see how you get on though
Anto
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4061 posts since 19/1/12

4 Jan 2021 15:05
I think VAT will be collected by customs once it gets in the UK, possibly via the courier, which will charge you for the service
Crackajack
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8009 posts since 21/4/05

4 Jan 2021 15:06
Anyone tried international postage at the post office? Presume just need to fill in a CN form…

Got a couple of things to back / for potential classified sales.
Crackajack
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8009 posts since 21/4/05

posted 4 Jan 2021 15:07, edited 4 Jan 2021 15:07
Anto wrote: I think VAT will be collected by customs once it gets in the UK, possibly via the courier, which will charge you for the service

Can't see how they can cope with this extra demand, I reckon a lot will just get waived through. Alternatively it will all get held up and they will be making millions!
Anto
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4061 posts since 19/1/12

posted 4 Jan 2021 15:11, edited 4 Jan 2021 15:11
Sure, that's how it should work on paper, in reality, as already with items from Japan\US, many will just go under the radar
Rirawin
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9567 posts since 17/7/05

posted 4 Jan 2021 15:18, edited 4 Jan 2021 15:18
My local post office just had a sign up saying that all European parcels from 29th December 2020 require a CN22 form filled in (as is required for parcels going outside the EU). Looks like they're on the ball.
smith
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11471 posts since 5/5/04

posted 4 Jan 2021 15:20, edited 4 Jan 2021 15:20
Someone needs to be the guinea pig and show us what the overall damage is for ordering from abroad. I'm very tempted if foot district finally sort out their prices and remove the VAT their end before something I want sells out. I even rang them up and they are claiming they have not received official confirmation on how to charge us in the UK yetEvil

LFC
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5722 posts since 14/6/11

4 Jan 2021 15:27
I’m waiting to buy fragrances (buy ban going well) from Europe but not sure how much I’ll end up paying either Evil
1234589
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960 posts since 1/6/10

4 Jan 2021 15:35
Got a couple of orders due from EU countries which I made on 1 Jan (misread the guidance and thought anything under £390 would be exempt from duty fees, so both orders are around £300 Eek ) - will report back once they arrive…
Hanto
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3213 posts since 30/11/09

4 Jan 2021 16:11
swede wrote: I have been thinking about ordering from swe too hanto. looks like OL webstore taking 25% off their orders (swedish VAT). i assume they will then add on 20% for UK VAT (to then be sent to HMRC..) or this will be collected by customs as it arrives…

returns might be a pain though. are royal mail even shipping internationally atm?

what a shit show. keen to see how you get on though

Just seen that Pancho & Lefty have removed the VAT from their site, so Shopify could be on it in update this sort of info.
swede
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9982 posts since 21/3/09

4 Jan 2021 16:24
1234589 wrote: Got a couple of orders due from EU countries which I made on 1 Jan (misread the guidance and thought anything under £390 would be exempt from duty fees, so both orders are around £300 Eek ) - will report back once they arrive…

what will the duty rate be ontop of that? which courier was it? intrigued to here how you get on
morgan
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1136 posts since 22/2/11

4 Jan 2021 16:38
We just need a proxy in every country and we will be sorted.