General Discussion: Stuff you hate but everyone else loves


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Crackajack
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7504 posts since 21/4/05

14 Feb 2020 23:24
It's like the school of Athens in here
JustinCredible
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2579 posts since 11/6/08

14 Feb 2020 23:44
Anyone who thinks Banksy's artwork is dire needs to lighten up - think it's fair to say he's not pitching himself against the renaissance greats.

It's quintesentially British - a bit quirky, a bit anti-establishment and the message of his "art" is easily understood by the vast majority of the general public (i.e. not up his own arse).

fudge I do my best not to dig you out (like most on here) but comments like "It’s graffiti pure and simple. It’s not art. It doesn’t elevate you. It doesn’t make you think." show you've been whooshed. Even if we put Banksy to one side you surely can't be suggesting graffiti can't be art?!?
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 00:28
krisricey wrote: Banksy’s artwork is fucking dire and people who think otherwise are dullards 90% of the time.

(Also fudge, add Ruebens and Caravaggio please)

Yes Caravaggio…. definitely…. seeing the Beheading Of St John in Valletta in the flesh is something else…
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 00:29
JustinCredible wrote: Anyone who thinks Banksy's artwork is dire needs to lighten up - think it's fair to say he's not pitching himself against the renaissance greats.

It's quintesentially British - a bit quirky, a bit anti-establishment and the message of his "art" is easily understood by the vast majority of the general public (i.e. not up his own arse).



fudge I do my best not to dig you out (like most on here) but comments like "It’s graffiti pure and simple. It’s not art. It doesn’t elevate you. It doesn’t make you think." show you've been whooshed. Even if we put Banksy to one side you surely can't be suggesting graffiti can't be art?!?

I appreciate you not ‘digging me out’ but I actually don’t think graffiti can be art… maybe that’s too simplistic but prove me wrong?
JustinCredible
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2579 posts since 11/6/08

15 Feb 2020 00:47
Art is subjective. Any piece can provoke profound thoughts & feelings in one where another will think it's worthless - that's why it's so beautiful.

You not appreciating graffiti is your personal choice but surely you're not blinkered enough to think nobody appreciates graffiti? If that was the case, why would it be so prolific?

Your obsession with "prove me wrong" is bizarre, especially in this context - the world isn't black/white, right/wrong, true/false.

I don't rate Kanye's back catalogue and don't get me started on Yeezy's but I do appreciate he's incredibly successful & popular with millions so must be doing something right so what the fuck do I know?
fudge.dredd
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posted 15 Feb 2020 01:45, edited 15 Feb 2020 01:45
JustinCredible wrote: Art is subjective. Any piece can provoke profound thoughts & feelings in one where another will think it's worthless - that's why it's so beautiful.

You not appreciating graffiti is your personal choice but surely you're not blinkered enough to think nobody appreciates graffiti? If that was the case, why would it be so prolific?

Your obsession with "prove me wrong" is bizarre, especially in this context - the world isn't black/white, right/wrong, true/false.

I don't rate Kanye's back catalogue and don't get me started on Yeezy's but I do appreciate he's incredibly successful & popular with millions so must be doing something right so what the fuck do I know?

Fair point but we are talking about art that has stood the test of time for over 100 years… do you think Tracy Emin’s Unmade Bed or anything by Banksy will stand the test of time? And don’t you think graffiti is vandalism?

But I digress - the point of this thread is things we dislike yet others love so that’s just my opinion but I feel I’m on the right side of history here.

The problem we have is the absence of god now.
Richgee
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30 posts since 26/4/15

15 Feb 2020 05:01
i loathe colour block clothing

double zips are shit

Fläsket
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3716 posts since 14/8/04

posted 15 Feb 2020 05:45, edited 15 Feb 2020 05:45
fudge.dredd wrote: do you think Tracy Emin’s Unmade Bed or anything by Banksy will stand the test of time?
I do think banksy will hold up better than damien Hirst over time.
Dee
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11528 posts since 22/11/07

15 Feb 2020 07:54
Graf art is great, it's the FMCG of modern art. If you wanted to pull the legs of an artist and their work then theres far more worthy candidates…..the gormless Tracey Emin would be a good place to start.
MLI
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5021 posts since 6/10/09

15 Feb 2020 08:03
fuckin stencils!, real graf artists must roll their eyes
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

15 Feb 2020 09:21
fudge.dredd wrote: Agree with Banksy. What qualifies as ‘art’ these days.. Roll Eyes

It’s graffiti pure and simple. It’s not art. It doesn’t elevate you. It doesn’t make you think.

Load of shite. For people who’s minds are filled with shite.

Go and see the Sistine Chapel, or Michaelangelo’s Pieta, or the alfrescos in the Duomo, or the Veiled Virgin by Strazza. Or anything done by Corradini.

You really are an insufferable arrogant plonker.

Your predictable and basic Daily Mail opinion almost makes me like Banksy.

FYI there are no alfrescos in the duomo.
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

15 Feb 2020 09:22
EssexBoyII wrote: God you make me want to roll my eyes so far up that they are looking through grey matter. Did you get that opinion from the big book of boomer generic bullshit?

LOL
Superprecise
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posted 15 Feb 2020 09:28, edited 15 Feb 2020 09:28
‘What is Art?’ according to Fudge Dredd. Sorry everyone for inviting this conversation.

Citing the Sistine Chapel and Tracy Emin makes me wonder if you’re actually a parody.
Crackajack
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7504 posts since 21/4/05

15 Feb 2020 09:31
If it's old and done with paint, it must be worthy art Cool
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 09:36
Jeez didn’t think everyone would get so triggered over an opinion. I’m sorry, put Banksy amongst the pantheon of greats… I was wrong.

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

15 Feb 2020 09:46
You had to get a 'triggered' in there didn't you!? You're so edgy and we are so silly. No one was putting Banksy "amongst the pantheon of greats" FFS. Roll your eyes all day you daft cunt.
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 10:10


This reminds me of some you FUK’ers.

Laughing out loud
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 10:12
Superprecise wrote: You had to get a 'triggered' in there didn't you!? You're so edgy and we are so silly. No one was putting Banksy "amongst the pantheon of greats" FFS. Roll your eyes all day you daft cunt.

Haha look at your reactions… so pathetic. Now go away and marvel at some postmodern shit and jizz all over it if you can find your penis.
fudge.dredd
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1258 posts since 15/12/12

15 Feb 2020 11:51
“ Relationships of ownership
They whisper in the wings
To those condemned to act accordingly
And wait for succeeding kings”
Superprecise
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2146 posts since 16/7/11

15 Feb 2020 12:37
Dylan, good shout