General Discussion: The 'These days, if you say you're English you'll be thrown in jail' thread


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shame
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1730 posts since 17/7/12

19 Dec 2017 15:01
'here is a short unbiased video which follows the halal process, where you can see the respect involved in the process'
Isn't it interesting that there is no word about the treatment or life of the chicken before the kill. I guess most of those chickens are not from ny and are exported, so u can only guess how much stress those animals had handled from their journey and how much drugs they got pumped in their bodies, just to get slaughtered the right way.
Personally i saw no respect in that video. Just a different method on how to kill an animal based on some ancient novel.
My uncle owns a small farm where i've witnessed kills from cows, chickens, pigs, rabbits…
That 2nd video is not the usual european way how a pig gets killed on that small non industrialeced level. That's for sure.

It seems the religious thing is somehow relevant to you and that's fine.
On a rational pov it's just hard to argue how there is more respect involved or how halal is even more 'humane' than other methods. It's the same shit, just different…
zappa1903
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289 posts since 26/8/14

19 Dec 2017 17:08
No one mention Diane Abbott blackface at the darts yet? 190!!
Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

19 Dec 2017 18:44
You’re not allowed to find it funny because it’s blackface.

How else was he supposed to look like Diane Abbot?

A cardboard mask would be ok but his hands would be white. He should be laughed at and congratulated for his efforts with that joke. Must have taken him ages to get black and then have to wash it off.
zappa1903
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289 posts since 26/8/14

19 Dec 2017 19:08
yeah the worlds gone mad, how can you look like a black person without making yourself black, you are have too otherwise it doesn't work. It's a laugh, and if you get offended by it you have to question yourself why?
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2266 posts since 12/12/01

19 Dec 2017 19:16
Mr X wrote: You’re not allowed to find it funny because it’s blackface.

How else was he supposed to look like Diane Abbot?

A cardboard mask would be ok but his hands would be white. He should be laughed at and congratulated for his efforts with that joke. Must have taken him ages to get black and then have to wash it off.

The 190 for me was Cool
Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

19 Dec 2017 19:24
Nah bullshit. The joke doesnt work if he’s not black. World really has gone mad, full of people like you who have to point out the 190 part without attributing Diane Abbot because scared it’s racism.
Crackajack
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7590 posts since 21/4/05

19 Dec 2017 19:31
Would work better with a mask as more people would know who it is? Unless a big part of the joke is just doing blackface.

I'm not offended by it, just think it's a shitty thing to do that will probably offend other people for little added humour / payoff.
Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

posted 19 Dec 2017 19:49, edited 19 Dec 2017 19:49
I think the thing that makes the blackface funny is the effort taken, wig and 190 included. It also looked really shit which makes it all the more funny to me. What’s the point of jokes if you can’t laugh at them because your own brain has to compute how your reaction effects other people?

“Oh dear I can’t possibly laugh at that someone might be offended or I better make up some other reason why it’s funny if someone asks why in case they think I’m being racist and I’m absolved of any incrimination.”
Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

posted 19 Dec 2017 20:00, edited 19 Dec 2017 20:00
At the end of the day to cliche…

It comes down to slavery. Something that can’t be forgetten about or put in the past. Every race issue between white people and black people comes down to slavery and the unwillingness to forgive those white people of this treacherous crime.
stoney
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17558 posts since 22/1/05

19 Dec 2017 20:18
Shame about noble, He did seem like a stand up guy. He is Everything that is rotten about the racist element of the leave vote. He is just a radical hate preacher now Cry
Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

19 Dec 2017 20:22
Peter has heard Jesus’ advice on how to handle a difficulty between brothers by trying to settle it one-on-one. Yet, Peter seems to want to quantify the number of times one should make such an effort.

Peter asks: “Lord, how many times is my brother to sin against me and am I to forgive him? Up to seven times?” Some religious leaders teach that one should grant forgiveness up to three times. So Peter may feel that he would be very generous if he forgave a brother “up to seven times.”​—Matthew 18:21.

However, the idea of keeping such a record of wrongs is not in the spirit of Jesus’ teaching. So he corrects Peter: “I say to you, not up to seven times, but up to 77 times.” (Matthew 18:22) That, in other words, means indefinitely. There should be no limit to the number of times Peter forgives his brother.

The king forgiving a slave’s debt
Jesus then tells Peter and the others an illustration to impress on them their obligation to be forgiving. It is about a slave who fails to imitate his merciful master. The king wants to settle accounts with his slaves. One slave who owes the enormous debt of 10,000 talents [60,000,000 denarii] is brought to him. There is no possible way he can pay that debt. So the king orders that the slave, his wife, and his children be sold and payment be made. At that, the slave falls down at his master’s feet and begs: “Be patient with me, and I will pay back everything to you.”​—Matthew 18:26.

A slave having his fellow slave thrown into prison
The king is moved with pity and mercifully cancels the slave’s huge debt. Once the king has done so, this slave goes and finds a fellow slave who owes him 100 denarii. He grabs the other slave and begins choking him, saying: “Pay back whatever you owe.” But that fellow slave falls at the feet of the slave to whom he is in debt, begging: “Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.” (Matthew 18:28, 29) However, the slave whose debt the king forgave does not imitate his master. He has his fellow slave, who owes much less, thrown into prison until he can pay what he owes.

The king has the unmerciful slave taken to prison
Jesus then relates that other slaves who see this unmerciful treatment go and tell the master, who angrily summons the slave and says: “Wicked slave, I canceled all that debt for you when you pleaded with me. Should you not also have shown mercy to your fellow slave as I showed mercy to you?” The angry king delivers the unmerciful slave over to the jailers until he repays all that he owes. Jesus concludes: “My heavenly Father will also deal with you in the same way if each of you does not forgive your brother from your heart.”​—Matthew 18:32-35.

What a lesson that should teach us about forgiveness! God has forgiven us a large debt of sin. Whatever transgression a Christian brother commits against us is small in comparison. And Jehovah forgives us not once but thousands of times. Can we not forgive our brother a number of times, even if we have a cause for complaint? As Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount, God will “forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.”​—Matthew 6:12.
deuce
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13860 posts since 21/1/08

19 Dec 2017 20:32
What’s y’all opinions on the film white chicks doe?
themistake
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10703 posts since 20/2/06

19 Dec 2017 20:37
deuce wrote: What’s y’all opinions on the film white chicks doe?

it was shit pal.
zappa1903
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289 posts since 26/8/14

19 Dec 2017 20:40
deuce wrote: What’s y’all opinions on the film white chicks doe?

Funny at places but overall pretty shite, not offence that they make there self white, black people can make fun of black people and white people, if a white person does it there branded racist, this thing reminds me of a South Park episode where they have a flag they deem to be racist and the boys all see past it
Rez
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8253 posts since 5/4/09

posted 19 Dec 2017 20:44, edited 19 Dec 2017 20:44
Love to base my politics on south park rather than take black people on their word about what deeply offends them.

Nobody said that making fun of people who are black makes you racist. That's literally something you've invented in your head.

If you make fun of people for being black, then yes, you are a racist.

You shouldn't black up because that's racist. There's no way you can be a grown adult in the UK and not know that.

These are basic things that everyone knows.

You can twist it all you like 'But it was a funny joke!' 'But it was about someone I don't like!' 'But how else am I supposed to dress up as a black person', but the fact remains that if you do it, you know the offence it will cause, but you'd rather do it anyway.

That makes you a racist cunt.
zappa1903
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289 posts since 26/8/14

19 Dec 2017 20:56
Why does it deeply offend them though? To dress up as a horse you would need to look like a horse, to dress up as a black person making yourself black seems the obvious thing, by doing this your not saying you are for slavery or anything your just having a laugh
figurine
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5895 posts since 14/5/07

19 Dec 2017 20:58
It's deeply offensive because it came to popularity in America when slavery was a thing.
Rez
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8253 posts since 5/4/09

posted 19 Dec 2017 20:59, edited 19 Dec 2017 20:59
Zappa, how do you not know about minstrelsy, you absolute fucking dolt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

Are you just pretending to be stupid because you really want to black up or what?
Rez
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8253 posts since 5/4/09

19 Dec 2017 21:02
More like Zappa1488 fucking hell
sydneyking
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4769 posts since 26/9/09

19 Dec 2017 21:25
Rez coming over as a liberal, leftist, apologist version of noble