Unlike Dior, the hems change only a little 28-31 = 16cm, 32-34 = 17cm I think. You can check measurements as ssense has got a size chart for the black 16cm, although they have them labeled as slim when they are in fact the skinny model with 2% polyurethane.

I need 30 in these (raw indigo and black) which fits perfect and not too tight. At first I bought 29 as I can fit in those too, but the 30 just looks better more low slung like the photo of the model below, and not as tight at the knee. For reference I take a 29 in dior homme raw made in japan 19cm, and a 30 in 17.5 washes such as the Jake wash or the super slender black. Hope that helps.

Yeah, the stuff hasn't been all that well received by people on the forums so there's not much information. In my opinion the jeans are far better than dior. I think that the stacking on diors looks messy now compared to the slimmer cleaner cuts at saint laurent. The only dior jeans I still wear are the jake wash.

I don't know anything about the washes yet though, as they haven't had any of the 16cm ones in store. I quite fancy a pair of the dirty used wash from luisaviaroma, but I'm unsure on sizing so might wait until they come into store (that's if they get them at all, as so far htey haven't had that much denim). But the raw indigo and black are fantastic. The black has a kind of coating which I can see will age really nicely. I'm just waiting on them getting them again as they aren't sure if they will be getting more (seems ridiculous that they can't just put more into production, apparently they have a load of people waiting for them). Shirts have pretty much all sold out in 37 and 38 too. Hopefully all these problems will be ironed out by next season as there's loads of stuff I fancy.

good fit on those, don't change 'em. surely itll disqualify you or something if you do

Anybody know how Surface to Air denim usually fits and if the quality is decent?

Thanks for the info. Size down like APC then?

YES! if your after max cash would say you could size down 1 as they have a bit of stretch in the waist..I did myself!

Guv - I'm going to be in HK early June and want to go to Take 5 when I'm there. Is it easy enough to find? I'll be staying in Central so not sure if it's best to get the ferry and find it myself or just jump in one of those super cheap cabs!

Today a red pen burst in my pocket. The day after my APC New Standards first wash, what should I do, stain remover, wash again ? Any help would be appreciated

draw a heart with eyes over it

Haha Superbad was the first reaction I got