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wellworn

828 posts since 6/7/02

23 Jun 2007 23:04

Brad wrote:

TH14 wrote: Cesc is a world-class player, Robin van Persie is a world-class player, hopefully Adebayor will become a world-class player, Tomas Rosicky is a world-class player, Jens Lehmann is a world-class player, Kolo Toure and William Gallas are world-class players. You can go through the whole squad like that.

right time for him to go, I think - a legend, but it will free up a whole generation of talent for Arsenal - I wish him well, he is fucking class in all respects, lovely man

Could do with laying off the Ouzo for a bit though - world class my arse.

eent

8967 posts since 25/2/05

24 Jun 2007 00:44

wellworn wrote:

eent wrote:

wellworn wrote:

eent wrote:

wellworn wrote:

DW wrote: its always shite when an amazing player leaves your club but wenger will sign a unknown for a fiver and he'll be mint. united need a striker too christ knows who they will get. mob fancy having smithy

Why do Utd need a striker? Leading scorers last season, and now strengthened their attacking options with 2 more forward players. They'll be playing 4-2-3-1 anyway, so another striker is only going to be warming the bench. Rossi might be given his chance, Saha will hopefully get to full fitness for the first time in his Utd career after his op, Smith might not end up going, Richardson will hopefully be shot, all will be well.

Well, the reason we need another striker is that rooney, isn't really a striker of sorts. He's a forward, he plays best when placed just behind a box-man, like ruud, imo. You can't rely on your mifielders to score most of the goals, though it worked alright this season. I'd like to see an outright striker, so rooney can play off him.

Oh and Noble, i wasn't saying that ruud wasn't a better striker, just correcting Guido on the price. And imo, he is a better striker, an absolute machine in the 16yard box.

But that won't happen, who would you leave out of the midfield 5 to accommodate another striker? Carrick & Hargreaves will hold, 3 out of Ronnie, Giggs, Scholes, Nani & Anderson (primarily the first 3) will be in front of them and Rooney up top. And we definitely don't need a box man as that doesn't suit our game at all. Ruud might have a been a great goalscorer, but thank god we sold him.

You were happy when we sold ruud? He had a couple of seasons left in him, and he was a fantastic goalscorer. Nutcase.

Oh, and you really want 2 brand new players starting in the first team? I'd play giggs scholes hargreaves/carrick ronaldo to start with, and start subbing nani and anderson in, over the course of the season. See if they prove themselves, with rooney hanging just behind an outright striker, like ruud.

R, you are notorious for it. Do you really want me to dig up old posts of you with ridiculous signing speculation?

What a line - 'he had a couple of seasons left in him'. It wasn't working with him in the team, and that's why we got rid.
You obviously know your football mate. Won 1 league title in Ruuds 5 seasons at the club, our worst record since the start of the Prem. 1 season without him and we're champions, potential treble winners. Great goalscorer unquestionably, but halting the teams progress - build up was too laboured, predictable, gameplan was get it to Ruud, no plan B. We were starting to look much better towards the end of 05-06 when he was injured/dropped and Saha was playing. And Hargreaves wasn't bought as an alternative to Carrick - it's not either / or. And when did I mention starting Nani & Anderson?

So the reason we only won 1 title out of 5, is purely because we had a 30goal a season striker. Interesting logic.

Er.. you nutter, i said what i thought the team should look like, which is why i put in the /, moron. You asked me to pick 4 mids, and i did. If ronaldo hadn't picked up this season, would we have won the premier league? So don't give me the "ruud just wasn't working" bollocks. If ronaldo had a sub-par season like previous 2, then we could have ended up 2nd place.

R

12883 posts since 17/5/03

24 Jun 2007 02:04

eent wrote: R, you are notorious for it. Do you really want me to dig up old posts of you with ridiculous signing speculation?

be my guest

wellworn

828 posts since 6/7/02

24 Jun 2007 07:58

eent wrote:

wellworn wrote:

eent wrote:

wellworn wrote:

eent wrote:

wellworn wrote:

DW wrote: its always shite when an amazing player leaves your club but wenger will sign a unknown for a fiver and he'll be mint. united need a striker too christ knows who they will get. mob fancy having smithy

Why do Utd need a striker? Leading scorers last season, and now strengthened their attacking options with 2 more forward players. They'll be playing 4-2-3-1 anyway, so another striker is only going to be warming the bench. Rossi might be given his chance, Saha will hopefully get to full fitness for the first time in his Utd career after his op, Smith might not end up going, Richardson will hopefully be shot, all will be well.

Well, the reason we need another striker is that rooney, isn't really a striker of sorts. He's a forward, he plays best when placed just behind a box-man, like ruud, imo. You can't rely on your mifielders to score most of the goals, though it worked alright this season. I'd like to see an outright striker, so rooney can play off him.

Oh and Noble, i wasn't saying that ruud wasn't a better striker, just correcting Guido on the price. And imo, he is a better striker, an absolute machine in the 16yard box.

But that won't happen, who would you leave out of the midfield 5 to accommodate another striker? Carrick & Hargreaves will hold, 3 out of Ronnie, Giggs, Scholes, Nani & Anderson (primarily the first 3) will be in front of them and Rooney up top. And we definitely don't need a box man as that doesn't suit our game at all. Ruud might have a been a great goalscorer, but thank god we sold him.

You were happy when we sold ruud? He had a couple of seasons left in him, and he was a fantastic goalscorer. Nutcase.

Oh, and you really want 2 brand new players starting in the first team? I'd play giggs scholes hargreaves/carrick ronaldo to start with, and start subbing nani and anderson in, over the course of the season. See if they prove themselves, with rooney hanging just behind an outright striker, like ruud.

R, you are notorious for it. Do you really want me to dig up old posts of you with ridiculous signing speculation?

What a line - 'he had a couple of seasons left in him'. It wasn't working with him in the team, and that's why we got rid.
You obviously know your football mate. Won 1 league title in Ruuds 5 seasons at the club, our worst record since the start of the Prem. 1 season without him and we're champions, potential treble winners. Great goalscorer unquestionably, but halting the teams progress - build up was too laboured, predictable, gameplan was get it to Ruud, no plan B. We were starting to look much better towards the end of 05-06 when he was injured/dropped and Saha was playing. And Hargreaves wasn't bought as an alternative to Carrick - it's not either / or. And when did I mention starting Nani & Anderson?

So the reason we only won 1 title out of 5, is purely because we had a 30goal a season striker. Interesting logic.

Er.. you nutter, i said what i thought the team should look like, which is why i put in the /, moron. You asked me to pick 4 mids, and i did. If ronaldo hadn't picked up this season, would we have won the premier league? So don't give me the "ruud just wasn't working" bollocks. If ronaldo had a sub-par season like previous 2, then we could have ended up 2nd place.

Best to park this one now boy. Pick 4 midfielders; since when did United revert back to 4-4-2? Oh sorry, that's what 'you' thought the team should look like. Play better on 'Football Manager' that way do they? Do you actually watch any games? We'll be playing 2 holding, 3 attacking supporting 1 striker. I'll leave the Ruud nonesense, you obviously haven't a clue as you've done well to highlight in your earlier posts. Thanks though, it was interesting.

eent

8967 posts since 25/2/05

24 Jun 2007 14:30

Haha, you certainly are an arrogant prick. I dont play football manager you fucking mug. If you want me to pick 4 to start, the first game, i'm gonna go with giggs, scholes, carrick, ronaldo. There you go. Rooney worked fine with saha up front, so theres your 4-4-2. The only reason we were playing 4 5 1 is because saha was injured, and rooney doesn't work best as a lone striker, and you'd be mad to think he does, he doesn't play lone striker for england either.

"you'll leave the ruud nonsense", why? because you know i'm right. He was an ASSET to the team, and only left because he fell out with the gaffa. Don't patronise me
Also, why you mugging off my opinion, when what you are spouting is yours.

Yes, i watch all the games on TV, and make it to 2-3 games a season (all i can afford as a student)

We went to 4 5 1 because saha was injured, and couldn't trust smith at the time. It worked, only because ronaldo gigs scholes and rooney had such a great season, had ronaldo not banged in so many, and turned a corner in his mentality we could well have ended up 2nd imo

I personally think we'd be best off 4-4-2, until we see how the new guys gel/play. Plus i like to see rooney support a box type striker. He has the delivery from behind, and can make space himself, for someone to bang in 30 a season, like hmmmmm ruud?

AAA

10000 posts since 15/12/02

24 Jun 2007 15:04

Put the handbags away ladies

andymakesglasses
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19549 posts since 26/1/06

24 Jun 2007 15:09

what's this Massimo Donati like then?

snaye

10271 posts since 24/10/02

24 Jun 2007 15:12

Anelka to Arsenal in NOTW….Jesus why!

Arsenal should sign Owen.

Garscube

31 posts since 9/5/07

24 Jun 2007 15:19

Donati by a lot of accounts is a very good holding midfielder who likes to dictate the play, sittin just behind the midfield but a lot more creative than the likes of Lennon (which wouldn't really be hard especially the last couple of seasons)

R

12883 posts since 17/5/03

24 Jun 2007 15:27

still waiting for the ridiculous speculation eent.

eent

8967 posts since 25/2/05

24 Jun 2007 16:20

http://www.fuk.co.uk/threads/carlton_cole_now_a_spurs_player

http://www.fuk.co.uk/threads/duff_to_spurs?from=40&comments;_per_page=20

Have a read through those threads.

My personal favourite was "torres to spurs - done deal"

DuffMan

13373 posts since 21/2/07

24 Jun 2007 16:51

Eent in all honesty, R does come off as a bit annoying, but he is right quite a bit and even when he's wrong he usually seems to have a pretty decent reason (whether the reasons are truthful I obviously cannot say) and for example on the same page as getting cole wrong he got pennant to
Liverpool right.

Mate

3682 posts since 15/4/07

24 Jun 2007 16:58

and Bent ^ ?

MoB

35267 posts since 31/8/04

24 Jun 2007 17:05

R is brilliant i got a PM off him a year and a half ago with these words in

Henry to Barcelona - Done deal

He was a year and a half ahead of eveyone else!!!

Ruben

10775 posts since 2/7/03

24 Jun 2007 17:09

Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

24 Jun 2007 17:16

all the papers are saying anelka is going back.
i would deffo inject that clause in owens contract and get him, and if not him i would get lita…hate the bloke cos of the perma spastic headfones round his neck, but hes by far the best at finding the back of the net out of the all young baby bentley raggamuffin roasters around at the moment.

wellworn

828 posts since 6/7/02

24 Jun 2007 17:45

eent wrote: Haha, you certainly are an arrogant prick. I dont play football manager you fucking mug. If you want me to pick 4 to start, the first game, i'm gonna go with giggs, scholes, carrick, ronaldo. There you go. Rooney worked fine with saha up front, so theres your 4-4-2. The only reason we were playing 4 5 1 is because saha was injured, and rooney doesn't work best as a lone striker, and you'd be mad to think he does, he doesn't play lone striker for england either.

"you'll leave the ruud nonsense", why? because you know i'm right. He was an ASSET to the team, and only left because he fell out with the gaffa. Don't patronise me
Also, why you mugging off my opinion, when what you are spouting is yours.

Yes, i watch all the games on TV, and make it to 2-3 games a season (all i can afford as a student)

We went to 4 5 1 because saha was injured, and couldn't trust smith at the time. It worked, only because ronaldo gigs scholes and rooney had such a great season, had ronaldo not banged in so many, and turned a corner in his mentality we could well have ended up 2nd imo

I personally think we'd be best off 4-4-2, until we see how the new guys gel/play. Plus i like to see rooney support a box type striker. He has the delivery from behind, and can make space himself, for someone to bang in 30 a season, like hmmmmm ruud?

OK, I'll be polite.
So RVN was an asset but we couldn't win fuck all with him? 5 seasons, 1 prem, 1 FA cup, 1 League Cup, poor in Europe. That ones got me confused.
And what I'm 'spouting' is fact. We haven't played 4-4-2 for fuckin ages, SAF wants to play with one up front, supported by 3 attacking midfielders. Hence the players he's brought in. It's his preferred system.
VDS
G Nev Rio Vidic Evra
Carrick Hargreaves
Ronnie Scholes Giggs
Rooney

This will be our first choice line up next season.

And Ronnie didn't turn any corners mentally, he was no longer required to attempt to be Beckhams replacement, stuck with the job of getting the ball into RVN's feet. He was given the opportunity to play his natural game, which he did.

eent

8967 posts since 25/2/05

24 Jun 2007 18:28

wellworn wrote:

eent wrote: Haha, you certainly are an arrogant prick. I dont play football manager you fucking mug. If you want me to pick 4 to start, the first game, i'm gonna go with giggs, scholes, carrick, ronaldo. There you go. Rooney worked fine with saha up front, so theres your 4-4-2. The only reason we were playing 4 5 1 is because saha was injured, and rooney doesn't work best as a lone striker, and you'd be mad to think he does, he doesn't play lone striker for england either.

"you'll leave the ruud nonsense", why? because you know i'm right. He was an ASSET to the team, and only left because he fell out with the gaffa. Don't patronise me
Also, why you mugging off my opinion, when what you are spouting is yours.

Yes, i watch all the games on TV, and make it to 2-3 games a season (all i can afford as a student)

We went to 4 5 1 because saha was injured, and couldn't trust smith at the time. It worked, only because ronaldo gigs scholes and rooney had such a great season, had ronaldo not banged in so many, and turned a corner in his mentality we could well have ended up 2nd imo

I personally think we'd be best off 4-4-2, until we see how the new guys gel/play. Plus i like to see rooney support a box type striker. He has the delivery from behind, and can make space himself, for someone to bang in 30 a season, like hmmmmm ruud?

OK, I'll be polite.
So RVN was an asset but we couldn't win fuck all with him? 5 seasons, 1 prem, 1 FA cup, 1 League Cup, poor in Europe. That ones got me confused.
And what I'm 'spouting' is fact. We haven't played 4-4-2 for fuckin ages, SAF wants to play with one up front, supported by 3 attacking midfielders. Hence the players he's brought in. It's his preferred system.
VDS
G Nev Rio Vidic Evra
Carrick Hargreaves
Ronnie Scholes Giggs
Rooney

This will be our first choice line up next season.

And Ronnie didn't turn any corners mentally, he was no longer required to attempt to be Beckhams replacement, stuck with the job of getting the ball into RVN's feet. He was given the opportunity to play his natural game, which he did.

Do you not think it was coincidence about not winning many titles with ruud? One player, out of the whole team?

First two seasons of ronaldo, he was even more ott than he is now (especially with those step overs), and he didn't pass half as much as he does now. This season he has progressed a player, and adapted to the premiership, therefore played much better, creating, and scoring more chances.

I'm still yet to be convinced by Hargreaves

DuffMan, yeah he's made some good predictions, and everyone can read the paper. He's also made some bad ones, surely going by others comments, you can tell it's not just a one off

vip

3969 posts since 27/3/06

24 Jun 2007 19:09

bring in Martins!

El Bongo

2992 posts since 15/8/06

24 Jun 2007 19:18

It's only a game

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