dare i say it but as individual players, assuming the bin dippers are one of those top three sides you mention, i'd take nearly everyone from the goons over anyone from the scouse
Archive: The Premiership discussion thread including potential transfers.
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27 Jun 2007 09:35
27 Jun 2007 10:33
Based purely on footballing ability and not just how much you hate the mickeys, you'd really go with the Arses unknowns over Gerrard, Carragher, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, Agger, Finnan, Sissoko, Riise & the rest. Now I know this shower are no world beaters, but at least I recognise their bloody names!
27 Jun 2007 10:41
im pretty sure every arsenal fan respects henry's decision. never seen a player leave with so much dignity
A rat and a sinking ship springs to mind.
How many of Arsenals first choice 11 would seriously get into the top 3 sides? Gallas & Fabregas are the only 2 who would get close. Just not enough quality in the squad now and Henry knew it. Could be the beginning of the end. No more va va voom now.
Arsenal still have real quality. Adebayor, Van Persie, Toure and Eboue could all be added to the list of players that would get into top three squads.
27 Jun 2007 11:25
27 Jun 2007 12:50
27 Jun 2007 13:14
im pretty sure every arsenal fan respects henry's decision. never seen a player leave with so much dignity
Aye i cant begrudge him for wanting to leave. I doubt he will play in that game mate, unless otherwise stated?
Dunno, hope so! Ronaldinho and Eto'o are contracted to play but doubt TH will be unless maybe Eto'o leaves. Although given TH's injuries last season, they might think he needs some games. Although I hate to think what he could do to us!
And for what it's worth, I thought Henry was proper dignified when he left. No disrespect to anyone, big love to staff and fans and made what's likely to be his last move to a great club. Can't complain about that.
27 Jun 2007 13:32
27 Jun 2007 13:40
looks like Craig Beattie's going to West Brom 
http://sport.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=829&id;=1001912007
http://sport.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=829&id;=1001912007
dare i say it but as individual players, assuming the bin dippers are one of those top three sides you mention, i'd take nearly everyone from the goons over anyone from the scouse
Based purely on footballing ability and not just how much you hate the mickeys, you'd really go with the Arses unknowns over Gerrard, Carragher, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, Agger, Finnan, Sissoko, Riise & the rest. Now I know this shower are no world beaters, but at least I recognise their bloody names!
MoB - if you want to give TH a proper goodbye (or alternatively, throw coins at him depending on how gutted you're feeling that day), we (Hearts) are playing Barcelona on July 28th. Good excuse to come up to Edinburgh!
im pretty sure every arsenal fan respects henry's decision. never seen a player leave with so much dignity
A rat and a sinking ship springs to mind.
How many of Arsenals first choice 11 would seriously get into the top 3 sides? Gallas & Fabregas are the only 2 who would get close. Just not enough quality in the squad now and Henry knew it. Could be the beginning of the end. No more va va voom now.
Arsenal still have real quality. Adebayor, Van Persie, Toure and Eboue could all be added to the list of players that would get into top three squads.
I did miss Toure off my original post but you're still only left with a handful who could get into the top 3 squads. And you can't say they are real quality, ffs Arsenal had Viera, Bergkamp, Cole, Pires, Henry and the rest not that long ago, that was real quality. This current team will get kicked all over the place next seson, top 6 finish is best they can hope for. Think about where they where 4 or 5 years ago, rightly challenging United to be the number 1 team in the country. I hated them, but they had class all over the pitch, household names, players at the top of their game. They've slipped a long way back since then, the continuity in strengthening/rebuilding the side has gone, along with all the big guns.
Fact is Benitez is a superb manager but he's terrible in the transfer market. How many buys does he ship in one season and out the next? Arsenal were on Liverpools coat tails this season which barely 1 fit striker for most of it and no centre backs. the young players will improve further as well. People overate Liverpool every season. I can see Spurs challenging them for 4th.
MoB - if you want to give TH a proper goodbye (or alternatively, throw coins at him depending on how gutted you're feeling that day), we (Hearts) are playing Barcelona on July 28th. Good excuse to come up to Edinburgh!
im pretty sure every arsenal fan respects henry's decision. never seen a player leave with so much dignity
Aye i cant begrudge him for wanting to leave. I doubt he will play in that game mate, unless otherwise stated?
Dunno, hope so! Ronaldinho and Eto'o are contracted to play but doubt TH will be unless maybe Eto'o leaves. Although given TH's injuries last season, they might think he needs some games. Although I hate to think what he could do to us!
And for what it's worth, I thought Henry was proper dignified when he left. No disrespect to anyone, big love to staff and fans and made what's likely to be his last move to a great club. Can't complain about that.
wellworn, by your own admission pool have few to no world beaters (bar of couse the ineffable stevie g)- so why bother comparing the "top 3" squads to Bergkamp, Pires, Henry et al who are all far better than anyone liverpool have had for yonks - compare Kuyt, headless chicken Sissoko, Finnan, Jamie "QE2" Carragher and the like to the goons golden boys and they look crap too, they also look one-paced and one dimensional compared to toure, eboue, van persie even bloody adebayor - even spurs have more "footballer" footballers than pool 
So because it hasn't happened in the last 10 years, it means that it can't happen. I reckon this is probably the weakest squad they've had during that time. I was going to Old Trafford for more than 10 years before I saw a United team that even looked capable of challenging for the league, and then another 5 years before they had one good enough to win it! Granted, Arsenals youngters might cut it, but there's no gaurantee, and I've just got a feeling that this could be the start of a decline in their fortunes.
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