General Discussion: The FUK Boxing Thread!


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carl lewis
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28 Jul 2018 22:54
Good road man scraps tonight Cool
Crackajack
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29 Jul 2018 00:09
Any good videos of morons in the crowd smacking each other?
NigelBenn
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29 Jul 2018 17:51
carl lewis wrote: Good road man scraps tonight Cool
Gold card. Prop's eddie
carl lewis
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29 Jul 2018 19:11
Eddie needs to sort that Wilder fight
fudge.dredd
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posted 19 Aug 2018 15:37, edited 19 Aug 2018 15:37
Strange how Wilder V Fury can be arranged so quickly while Matchroom keep AJ wrapped in cotton wool in case he gets destroyed by Wilder.

Pathetic, really.

What a waste.
rural
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19 Aug 2018 15:48
Cash cow
carl lewis
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8 Sep 2018 22:01
Can’t see Khan beating Brook
fudge.dredd
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posted 8 Sep 2018 22:41, edited 8 Sep 2018 22:41
Khan is shit. Total and utter bollocks.

Brook would lay him in Intensive Care in three rounds.

Asians have no chin.

^ by ‘Asians’ I mean ‘south Asians’ (read: Pakistani) - not the Pacquiao kind of Asian.
swiftus
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8 Sep 2018 23:28
fudge.dredd wrote: Khan is shit. Total and utter bollocks.

Brook would lay him in Intensive Care in three rounds.

Asians have no chin.

^ by ‘Asians’ I mean ‘south Asians’ (read: Pakistani) - not the Pacquiao kind of Asian.

How many South Asians have you fought or seen fight?
fudge.dredd
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posted 9 Sep 2018 22:29, edited 9 Sep 2018 22:29
A couple. And they're all shite.

Here's another one:

swiftus
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9 Sep 2018 22:57
You're an idiot
fudge.dredd
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10 Sep 2018 07:07
Yep. Making generalisations based upon what I know to be true makes me an idiot.

South Asians aren’t good boxers.

Mexicans are.

Kenyans are great runners.

African Americans are great at basketball and NFL.

Let’s not shy away from facts.
Crackajack
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10 Sep 2018 08:13
So your saying there is some kind of genetic disadvantage (e.g. prone to getting KO) in South Asian boxers?
swiftus
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10 Sep 2018 10:54
fudge.dredd wrote: Making generalisations based upon what I know to be true makes me an idiot.

Yes. Exactly that.
toocan
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10 Sep 2018 13:49
Is it that they aren't good boxers genetically more that as a nation(s) they haven't had a historical interest in combat sports and by proxy no support network/facilities for nurturing talent over the years and thus very little success.

You could write off any country based on the above e.g. America/China based on population should have the worlds best footballers but their interest is only recentish. Give it 50 years and im sure both would dominate as long as their interest grows and the facilities, grass roots stuff etc. to support that

toocan
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10 Sep 2018 13:50
Looking on Wikipedia Frisby is more popular than boxing in Pakistan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_Pakistan#National_participation
fudge.dredd
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10 Sep 2018 15:29
Ok I can go with that.

But genetically south Asians don’t gave the ‘natural’ DNA you need to be a boxer in my opinion, I should know, I’m from the same background. It’s not a slight on an entire people.

Is there a reason why Mexicans are deemed more ‘rugged’ in boxing? Why they have the chins?
The likes of Morales, Garcia, Chavez, Barrera, Canelo, and you can go further back… support network makes them so tough? The infrastructure of the Mexican boxing academies? I don’t think so.

And Khan is British - not Pakistani.
He has our boxing facilities. He should be technically just as good as the Mexicans I’ve named if it’s just based on the country’s facilities.

But it’s his DNA - which is where he fails.

And why are most American heavyweights black?

There’s always outliers but don’t tell me DNA doesn’t play a huge role.
fudge.dredd
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10 Sep 2018 15:29
swiftus wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: Making generalisations based upon what I know to be true makes me an idiot.

Yes. Exactly that.

Oh ok. I’m an idiot for having a different point of view to you.

swiftus
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10 Sep 2018 16:34
No, it's because you're passing your opinion as 'facts'

fudge.dredd wrote: Let’s not shy away from facts.

fudge.dredd wrote: But genetically south Asians don’t gave the ‘natural’ DNA you need to be a boxer in my opinion.
billybrown
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posted 11 Sep 2018 09:04, edited 11 Sep 2018 09:04
I get what fudge is saying about genetics, kenyans being good at running. But boxing has several different weight categories, but more importantly the sample size of South Asian Boxing is so low it's hard to make an accurate comparison. You're making a judgement on two or three boxers. Also, boxing is not just about physical strength, it's a highly technical sport, tactical, and requires a high level of general fitness, as well as mental fortitude.

DNA is hugely important, but can't say South Asians have glass jaws based on a couple of boxers.