A chunky derby, brogue or chukka.

E.g. Sanders or Trickers.

Not tried them but there seem to be a few UK stockists for these made in Italy chinos
http://www.fourtenindustry.com/en/home/

Peggs for example

My office is going 'business casual' so I'm keen to gradually move away from suits. Not wanting to spend much initially as it is just for work.

I'm thinking of trying Arket for some slim fit chinos and an Oxford. I know Uniqlo do decent Oxfords for the money, so might get some of them as well.

Anywhere doing reasonable Derbys for around a ton? These seem ok: https://www.jonesbootmaker.com/collections/derby-shoes/products/leather-derby-davinc28507-313-555?variant=14466021523519

Just buy some Samuel Windsor’s they are like 35/40 quid. Get fucked relatively quickly, but so does stomping round the city in any pair of shoes.

Am I the only one that derby/loafers with chinos at work looks mega naff/river island? Solid pair of penny/tassel loafers, or buckle if your a cunt like that, looks far better

If you're wearing £35 derbies it will look shit, don't think £35 penny loafers will be much better.

What you wear and how you present yourself impacts hugely on how you are perceived. I’m surprised this seems to be news to anyone really?

I’m not saying you need to be draped head to toe in bespoke tailoring to make any head way but the “it’s only work, I don’t want to spend any sort of money” attitude baffles me, that’s all.

You’re entirely missing the point and it’s got nothing to do with wearing “Churchs or office own brand”. It’s to do with the attitude of thinking that work isn’t a place worth wearing anything decent. I just don’t get that. You could, for instance, get a pair of Loake on eBay for £100 or less. That, I’d say, is entry level “decent”. That pair of Loake, properly cared for, will outlast numerous pairs of “office own brand shoes” and they’ll look better than the office own brand. Cheap shoes will look cheap from day one.

And you’re right. If you wear anything for 10 hours a day, day in day out, it’ll end up fucked. That’s common sense. It’d happen to a Next suit and office shoes or an Anderson Sheppard suit and Saint Crispin’s shoes. I’m not disagreeing with that. The difference being that’s if you had 3 decent suits and 2 decent pairs of shoes, the shoes would last 10 years if you cared for then properly. The suits, probably not, but they’d last longer and look better than the Next suit.

You’re wearing through trousers too quickly because they’re either too tight in the wrong places or you don’t have enough rotation in your wardrobe. It’s not a slight on you at all and, in fact, the way today’s overly slim styles are heading it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it’s the former.

That being said, if you’ve got a suit cut with enough room in the top block trouser wise and you’re not wearing it every day (i.e you’ve got min 2 suits in rotation) then it’s not normal to be wearing through trousers quickly. None of that really relates to price or quality thought but rather fit. If you’ve got a £2k suit that’s cut too tight the trousers will wear through quicker than a Next suit that’s cut somewhere closer to fitting.

I currently have about 6/7 pairs of suit trousers in rotation (I wear business dress 4 days a week, with casual dress on Fridays). I find the knees tend to get a bit faded on my trousers with navy pairs being the worst. I haven't a clue why as I'm just sitting on my arse all day and I look after my stuff.

I never get the suit jackets to fit well either - the front often is decent but I usually get a collar roll around the back.

I'll be glad to be getting away from wearing suits tbh. My only decent fitting suit is one I got made in Vietnam.

fucking hell awful awful advice do not do this