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Mancunia
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750 posts since 29/10/12

24 Jan 2021 12:22
I think it’s a combination of Conor/Kavanagh not adapting to today’s game, Conor having too much loyalty to work with different coaches in order to adopt different perspectives and his current team seeming to act as yes men around him. Some of the encouragement from Kavanagh in the corner in the first round seemed strange “absolute fantastic control of the right hand” which is pretty elementary to stop takedowns.

Sad for Conor, but I’m guessing it’s hard to have hunger for a fighting life when you turn up in a rolls royce and the main sparring partners you’ve chosen are at best low level Irish pro boxers.
NigelBenn
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4310 posts since 6/2/08

24 Jan 2021 14:57
Ffs

I’m always wrong
phelen
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24 Jan 2021 16:48
NigelBenn wrote: Ffs

I’m always wrong

I'm not surprised motherfuckers

bertoni
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1435 posts since 29/9/11

24 Jan 2021 17:38
Don't worry Nige, i'm no better Laughing out loud
phelen
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6598 posts since 16/8/06

24 Jan 2021 19:22
I'm genuinely surprised Conor was taken down so easily, its like the fight with Khabib never happened.
sydneyking
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4926 posts since 26/9/09

24 Jan 2021 19:36
Mancunia wrote: I think it’s a combination of Conor/Kavanagh not adapting to today’s game, Conor having too much loyalty to work with different coaches in order to adopt different perspectives and his current team seeming to act as yes men around him. Some of the encouragement from Kavanagh in the corner in the first round seemed strange “absolute fantastic control of the right hand” which is pretty elementary to stop takedowns.

Sad for Conor, but I’m guessing it’s hard to have hunger for a fighting life when you turn up in a rolls royce and the main sparring partners you’ve chosen are at best low level Irish pro boxers.

I’ve trained with Kavanagh, I wouldn’t pretend to know him by a long stretch but he’s always been big on wrist control and is always upbeat and positive.

I don’t think any of that makes him a yes man, I can’t comment on the rest of Connors team or on Connors commitment or lack of
NigelBenn
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4310 posts since 6/2/08

24 Jan 2021 23:25
phelen wrote:
NigelBenn wrote: Ffs

I’m always wrong

I'm not surprised motherfuckers
Fair play mate. You called it. Hope you had dollar on it
Mancunia
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750 posts since 29/10/12

24 Jan 2021 23:41
He seems like a super nice chap Sydney, and don’t get me wrong I’m a huge fan of Mcgregor’s. Just something I’ve noticed over the last couple of years when they’re around each other on videos or speak about each other. Almost like he has less admiration for John compared with how they used to be, and unlike how most fighters see their trainer/master.
phelen
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6598 posts since 16/8/06

24 Jan 2021 23:47
NigelBenn wrote:
phelen wrote:
NigelBenn wrote: Ffs

I’m always wrong

I'm not surprised motherfuckers
Fair play mate. You called it. Hope you had dollar on it

Its jokes, but yeah didn't make a bet but wish I didSmiling
colours
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634 posts since 15/6/09

25 Jan 2021 03:38
Needs to sort his camp out. Bringing in too many boxers to spar, almost felt like he was half preparing for Dustin, half starting his prep for a Manny bout.

Low low kicks have been meta for a while now, worrying that he didn't train to check them given DP does throw them a lot, Dustin even said he was checking them wrong in one of his interviews.

All that being said, he looked good until he didn't.
Mancunia
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750 posts since 29/10/12

25 Jan 2021 11:20
Yeah I was thinking that re the Manny prep.

All in all, it’s pretty impossible for anybody to juggle the plates he currently is and still be a master in the MMA game. If you looked at a rank in proportion of fighting/non-fighting activities of any of the top lightweights, or top fighters in any division, he comes a solid last imo. Then you can arguably even put boxing under the non-fighting category given it’s evidently a different game.

Sad times really, wouldn’t be surprised if he sat out the game but can’t see him leaving on a loss.
TROYBOY
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780 posts since 28/2/12

25 Jan 2021 13:03
when i saw the fight, just reminds me of rocky 3.
the man with all the cash has no hunger anymore.
think conor got nearly $4m for the fight and Dustin got $700k
Kadafi39
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1880 posts since 30/10/09

25 Jan 2021 14:09
Conor is a good fighter and is entertaining to watch but his cockiness and trash talking doesn't really fit with the ethos of MMA where fighters genuinely respect each other.

When he started trash talking about families, partners, religion I lost respect for him and cant say I was disappointed to watch him get humbled.
Mancunia
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750 posts since 29/10/12

posted 25 Jan 2021 14:10, edited 25 Jan 2021 14:10
Conor’s cut after POV payouts will be about $60-80m+ too Troy. Madness
TROYBOY
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780 posts since 28/2/12

11 Feb 2021 13:27
Anyone else think that overeem has looked scared of fighting for a few years now??? looked like a timid kid again and got tumped up again on saturday
zoom
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6545 posts since 22/7/05

11 Feb 2021 13:54
TROYBOY wrote: Anyone else think that overeem has looked scared of fighting for a few years now??? looked like a timid kid again and got tumped up again on saturday

I absolutely hated his defence against Volkov. Only so long you can stand with your back to the cage with a high guard before your going to get hurt, especially at heavy weight.
Seventyfour
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9277 posts since 6/10/05

11 Feb 2021 16:34
Yeah Big foot ruined him.
LFC
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5114 posts since 14/6/11

11 Feb 2021 16:50
Feel so sorry for him. Always gets to like the last hurdle and never makes it over. An amazing career and some class fights though.