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gawkrodger
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7641 posts since 4/11/08

5 Feb 2012 20:21
oh, and I had conduit winning by one round
CovOne
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8652 posts since 17/8/04

5 Feb 2012 20:27
gawkrodger wrote:
CovOne wrote: Pointless comment on this but two lads in the gym yesterday with Braulio Estima hoodies on.

which gym?

Pure Gym, they were doing ab work on the mats whilst I was doing my foam rolling.
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6 Feb 2012 07:15
mr.white
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17101 posts since 10/7/04

6 Feb 2012 12:37
not sure if he's a big name but im training at a gym here in pattaya owned by alistair overeem.. there's a few other ufc fighters here on occasion as well i just dont know there names/faces
sydneyking
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5056 posts since 26/9/09

6 Feb 2012 12:39
mr.white wrote: not sure if he's a big name but im training at a gym here in pattaya owned by alistair overeem.

One of the biggest, literally
FLG
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5884 posts since 21/5/04

6 Feb 2012 13:51
mr.white wrote: not sure if he's a big name but im training at a gym here in pattaya owned by alistair overeem

Jawdropping! X Ubercool X Laughing out loud
morning mist
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3521 posts since 29/5/05

6 Feb 2012 13:57
used to train at mma club that he visited a couple of times, the guy is gigantic, dwarfing the other HW's in the club Jawdropping!
MuayThaiPimp
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7925 posts since 10/8/11

6 Feb 2012 14:01
Mr white you training muay thai? didn't even know ubereem had a gym in pattaya, I knew golden glory had one like, but is his gym a commercial gym?
evz
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176 posts since 14/3/08

6 Feb 2012 14:48
Overeem brought the scorpion gym in 2010 and now its golden glory?
mr.white
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17101 posts since 10/7/04

6 Feb 2012 15:17
its golden glory gym ill try get a pic when i can. i say training, ive been once Oops going to try and do it regular tho - a few big names visit here ive heard
MuayThaiPimp
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7925 posts since 10/8/11

6 Feb 2012 16:14
mr.white wrote: its golden glory gym ill try get a pic when i can. i say training, ive been once Oops going to try and do it regular tho - a few big names visit here ive heard

Don't worry mate, a few drinks and that will turn into I've been trained by overeem Laughing out loud
Crackajack
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7975 posts since 21/4/05

6 Feb 2012 17:33
Anyone know of a Boxing gym in Manchester City Centre, other than Long Champs? (used to go there, want somewhere new/closer)

Only seem to be places that do kickboxing / Kung Fu etc so as an alternative anyone know if these have have traditional boxing classes?
phelen
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6697 posts since 16/8/06

7 Feb 2012 15:08
Laughing out loud

FLG
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5884 posts since 21/5/04

7 Feb 2012 15:53
Laughing out loud Dana's face

Looks like Arianny wants a piece of Whiteys gym buddy
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

7 Feb 2012 16:55
Rewatched the fight and still cant see how nick didnt win 1,2 and 5.
phelen
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6697 posts since 16/8/06

7 Feb 2012 17:11
I thought Condit executed a perfect strategy and won it clearly.

Diaz is a great fighter, but also a complete prick. It's possible to be both. I don't think anyone's being mean, just honest. He's always struck me as a thug: the sort of guy I can imagine fighting outside a pub, rather than a professional athlete. I personally really hated the way he dropped his hands and taunted Condit. It seemed disrespectful, unprofessional and immature. But I see MMA bouts as contests rather than fights (in the 'fighting outside a pub' sense of the word) and that doesn't seem to be the way Diaz sees them at all.

From what I've read the reason people are annoyed is that they accuse Condit of deliberately fighting to a decision instead of going for a finish, and that these sort of tactics should be penalised. I mean some people are genuinely saying Nick won the fight (rounds 1, 2 and 5 seem to be the concensus). I can see that, though I'm going to watch the match again tonight to see for myself. I remember that at one point I definitely thought Nick was winning the match (controlling the pace, controlling the octagon, being more agressive, landing the heavier shots) then a period where I felt Condit was landing clean combos again and again and taking control of the match, then a period of "Christ I don't know who is going to win this". I don't remember being shocked that Condit won but I don't think I would have been shocked if Nick won.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

7 Feb 2012 19:26
I understand you not liking him but you clearly dont understand nick diaz. Hes a tough kid and a fighter, that doesnt makeyou a thug. Also you dont see him as a professional athlete. He regularly competes as a tri-athlete, bjj black belt, possible pro level boxer. Most mma fighters regard him as nearly unrivalled in athleticism.

He's misunderstood, paranoid, hates the spotlight. You see mma fights as contests but he doesnt, he sees them as fights. Like rogan said; nick diaz comes to FIGHT you, not out score you. And on saturday nick came to win the fight and carlos came to win the sport.
Commander_Venus
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7 Feb 2012 19:27
Theres gonna be a rematch anyway so well get to settle it once and for all.
phelen
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7 Feb 2012 19:33
Well the MMA community in general have annoyed me a bit about the Diaz vs Condit fight, and the fighters themselves too who largely scored for Diaz and said Condit shouldnt have won for 'running' the whole fight. The fact was that Diaz was walking forward and getting Condit against the cage…which is Diaz's most dominant position. Condit was turning off the cage THE SAME WAY EVERY TIME and was taking the fight back into the middle of the ring, where he was outstriking and beating Diaz all the time. The idea that Diaz should've won just because some of the moronic fans (AND fighters) think that walking forward with your hands in the air and trying to engage in a brawl is the be-all-and-end-all of combat sports. Condit's gameplan was better and he stuck to it. Diaz's gameplan was limited and he wasnt able to adapt to the fact that he was being out-landed and out-smarted. Diaz's corner kept telling him not to chase Condit and to allow Condit to come to him, but in the middle of the ring Condit was landing combinations and beating him to the cleaner punches all fight long. Diaz's only real success was against the cage, which is why it made sense for Condit to not find himself there.

Bad corner work, bad fighter reaction, bad fan reaction to the whole thing and bad reaction from the fighters who are out there who simply dont want to believe that they would lose a fight they were pressing the whole time. If you asked a load of trainers, tacticians and cornermen who won that fight, Condit forced his gameplan on the fight and Diaz failed to force Condit to fight his fight. Enough of these 'pitty patty kicks' balls too. I've seen some fans say that if you take into account how many kicks Condit landed, then Diaz beat him in the striking because he landed more punches. Is the suggestion therefore that Diaz did not land any grazing punches or partially blocked ones? Condit landed clean crisp kicks to Diaz's legs and body that visibly slowed him down and clean kicks to his face that were a lot showier than anything Diaz landed the whole fight.


Rumor has it DW is pushing for a possible Diaz-Koscheck bout. Doubtful, Diaz won't fight wrestlers.
berk
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2118 posts since 24/3/08

7 Feb 2012 19:44
anywhere you watch it now ?