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bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

23 Aug 2012 20:02
He was really pissed, was almost comical at times. He also said Greg Jackson is weirdo and the only person who should ever interview greg jackson is a psychiatrist.
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

23 Aug 2012 20:14
bill wrote: He was really pissed, was almost comical at times. He also said Greg Jackson is weirdo and the only person who should ever interview greg jackson is a psychiatrist.

Where can I watch this?.As much as Jones is a gifted fighter he's a proper cunt from what I hear about him.
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

23 Aug 2012 20:18
here http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/252066
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

23 Aug 2012 20:23
Cheers mate
FLG
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5780 posts since 21/5/04

23 Aug 2012 20:36
Chael doesn't deserve a shot unless he has at least 4 wins in the division, Jones destroyed Machida less than a year ago. No way Jones will get cut
gawkrodger
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6832 posts since 4/11/08

23 Aug 2012 22:37
Yeh, first ever UFC event cancelled. Massive news.

On another note, its braulio estimas MMA debut tomorrow
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

23 Aug 2012 22:42
FLG wrote: Chael doesn't deserve a shot unless he has at least 4 wins in the division, Jones destroyed Machida less than a year ago. No way Jones will get cut

Then make it nontitle.

Besides everyone on that card got screwed by Jones/Jackson. I feel really bad for these guys, Jones not allowing them the same chances he got to become a star and a champion. Unbelievable.
MasterBlaster
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820 posts since 7/4/12

23 Aug 2012 23:08
MMA fans get bitchy over people 'deserving' their title shots don't they? It's not the fucking Olympics, its entertainment, the more people that watch the better. People would love to watch Sonnen say funny, delusional things then get his face smashed again.
bill
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4605 posts since 5/8/09

23 Aug 2012 23:15
I don't like Jon Jones but can understand why he turned down the fight, it's not fair to blame the loss of the event on him. If he lost the fight with Chael, everyone would be saying he shouldn't have taken it on short notice. If part of the reason he is the champion is that he spends a huge amount of time studying his opponent then I think he has a right not agree to fight a guy on short notice.

The reason the event got cancel IMO is that UFC cards are now more like boxing cards where there's only 1 fight people care about. Main events have been removed from cards before and the event has still happened.
FLG
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5780 posts since 21/5/04

23 Aug 2012 23:30
Master Blaster wrote: MMA fans get bitchy over people 'deserving' their title shots don't they? It's not the fucking Olympics, its entertainment

It's a sport. You're thinking of WWF.
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

23 Aug 2012 23:40
bill wrote: I don't like Jon Jones but can understand why he turned down the fight, it's not fair to blame the loss of the event on him. If he lost the fight with Chael, everyone would be saying he shouldn't have taken it on short notice. If part of the reason he is the champion is that he spends a huge amount of time studying his opponent then I think he has a right not agree to fight a guy on short notice.

The reason the event got cancel IMO is that UFC cards are now more like boxing cards where there's only 1 fight people care about. Main events have been removed from cards before and the event has still happened.


I don't hate him for not taking the fight on short notice but I do hate how he is (seemingly) so stubborn with an entire event on the line. He should have accepted one of the options that wasn't, cancel the whole event.
I'm also baffled as to why he wouldn't fight Chael (or why Jackson talked him out of it). Jones' dynamic kicks and elbows plus his wrestling match up almost perfectly against Chael. Their twitter war plus the Henderson injury could be as interesting as a build up as if the fight was scheduled six months out.
There are reasons to turn down fights, but this was a missed opportunity for Jones to save an event and shut up a rival in one swift move.
FLG
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5780 posts since 21/5/04

24 Aug 2012 07:47
It's now Belfort
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

24 Aug 2012 07:48
Damn would like to see Machida fight.
sydneyking
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3301 posts since 26/9/09

24 Aug 2012 08:13
How piss poor is the LHW division that they couldn't find anyone to fight Jones at a month's notice Puzzled
FLG
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5780 posts since 21/5/04

24 Aug 2012 14:30
Weird isn't it. 12 months ago it was by far the best division too. Would have been good to see Gustafsson step up.
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

24 Aug 2012 14:50
Can't blame Machida, he has a legitimate reason to turn down the fight. He finished fighting 3 weeks ago, and probably wants a full camp before fighting his arguably his toughest opponent ever in a rematch. Can't blame him. That said, props to Vitor, I would love to see Vitor KO Jones with a blitz.

Anyway always disliked Jones who displays disingeniuty at every opportunity.

1) He never turns down fights–but he will if he thinks it's not in his favor.
2) He wants to be a role model–but drinking and driving is okay.
3) He's a company man and never says no–screws over an entire card by saying no.
4) He says he fights for money–but turns down a PPV draw because the fight's not favorable (see 1).
5) He wants to be a legend of the sport–but alienates his peers and fans by pulling out in the most recent fashion.
gawkrodger
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6832 posts since 4/11/08

25 Aug 2012 12:00
Yes! Braulio wins his debut via arm triangle in round one
sydneyking
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3301 posts since 26/9/09

25 Aug 2012 12:41
Got a link to a video Gawk? had a quick look but couldn't find anything
Popeye Doyle
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1979 posts since 26/1/07

25 Aug 2012 15:44
http://www.allthebestfights.com/braulio-estima-vs-chris-holland-full-fight-video-titan-24/
phelen
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6274 posts since 16/8/06

25 Aug 2012 15:51

cheers