Menswear: Virgil Abloh


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Razorlight123
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28 Mar 2018 19:41
EssexBoyII wrote: This is the problem ‘oh he’s black so that’s diversity and it must be good’. If Olivier Rouesting (sp??) took over women’s couture at LV, I’d be thinking yeah. He has his own aesthetic and it fits well and would probably look great but VA was printing big letters of the back of flannel shirts a few years ago and that’s probably one of the more creative things he’s done in his designing life. Not everything is disabling the old rich white fashion hierarchy unless it based on meritocracy, not empty hype

I personally did'nt consider race at all, look past it - there are quite a few examples of black/minority who are in the industry so that's minor. My overall point is, he has come from a non-fashion background and has made it into the world of fashion, in the space of what, 7 years?! - great networking, mixed with a go getter attitude, and a 'talent' for playing the game, fair play to him.
EssexBoyII
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posted 28 Mar 2018 19:47, edited 28 Mar 2018 19:47
That’s really not what Raf, Jun etc ‘do’ is it. They might do it but it’s not their raison d’etre
manula
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28 Mar 2018 19:59
I get the conversation, and the Off/white stuff is not my cup of tea to say the least,
but Virgil was the creative director behind Kanyes company Donda West, so he designed the stage show etc
doubt he got the job just because off/white and pyrex stuff, he is a visonary.

manula
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28 Mar 2018 20:01
not sure how I ended up defending Virgil Abloh Laughing out loud
EssexBoyII
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28 Mar 2018 20:03
And visionary is where I have to leave the convo :hJawdropping!
sodomgomorra
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28 Mar 2018 20:05
manula wrote: but printing big letters on flannel shirt is pretty much what every fashion students do in the beginning,
Fucking Raf Simons is printing Talking Heads and Joy Division (bands everyone already finds cool) on t-shirts and is considered some kind of genius, that is fashion.

That comparison doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.
He didn't start out doing that, it's certainly not all he did and it has work has more to show for it than just that.

Forgoing the fact that those big letters in Virgils case are merely a brand name / a logo. His logo, and his brand name. It's self-reference and self-branding opposed to reference.
Razorlight123
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28 Mar 2018 20:05
Yeah, you took it too far manula. Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue
sodomgomorra
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28 Mar 2018 20:06
EssexBoyII wrote: And visionary is where I have to leave the convo :hJawdropping!

Fuck me

+1
manula
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28 Mar 2018 20:12
Saint Pablo tour, with the moving stage and the tour-visuals etc and make it work, is pretty impressive,
and doing things like that constantly over the years is good in my book,
then again he is not a fashion designer.
manula
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28 Mar 2018 20:15
Razorlight123 wrote: Yeah, you took it too far manula. Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue
I know Laughing out loud
Razorlight123
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28 Mar 2018 20:35
Was the stage over the crowd Pablo tour?
Sheppy
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28 Mar 2018 20:51
From what I saw from his recent runway shows in Paris he's stepped it up from a design point, he's still learning of course as he's not doing it very long. He'll have a huge team of talented people at LV I'm sure he'll be fine.
meridius
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28 Mar 2018 21:28
Murakami wrote: Hopes the Kim steers it away from that tired Hedi / skinny boy aesthetic

Kris Van Assche steered it away from that look time ago, they just kept selling the tight jeans in stores.

Virgil Abloh as a designer is barely more than that of a Uni fashion student whos mood board is filled with Raf Simons and Margiela. Theres probably a 50-strong team of people at LV that actually know what they are doing who are going to have to do all the hard work between Virgils ideas and the finished product.
shame
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29 Mar 2018 06:26
manula wrote: not sure how I ended up defending Virgil Abloh Laughing out loud
Laughing out loud thought the same.
To me that whole discussion sounds like 'all those young people don't know what true fashion is all about' without even knowing what those young people will do. Time will show…
Beside that, who the fuck (on here) cares about or is buying louis vuitton anyway? Laughing out loud
EssexBoyII
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29 Mar 2018 06:31
No one but that’s not the point Laughing out loud