Menswear: The Visvim Thread. Everything Visvim In Here!


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unvanquished
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12 posts since 6/8/16

27 Aug 2016 21:49
Old Greg… I remember watching a random ass YouTube video by that name probably 10 years ago. Some crazy fisherman in a cave. Anyway, why do you keep saying 99% same item? How do they make fakes in the same factory as the legit items? I'm sending this shirt back, but from what I have seen online (which is almost nothing on this particular shirt) the details seem to match. Anyone have a pic of the Longrider Bandana Shirt? Thanks.
baggysmalls
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356 posts since 9/5/08

28 Aug 2016 15:12
https://youtu.be/dh3CypZ9Q5U
fycus
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84 posts since 30/1/13

29 Aug 2016 09:06
Enjoy your fakes bro, post a fit and some detail pics so we can see how great of a replica it is Cool
C-Stylez
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5246 posts since 4/7/12

29 Aug 2016 10:10
Someone ban this clown
oldgregg
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6394 posts since 13/4/02

29 Aug 2016 15:32
Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud please dont
unvanquished
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12 posts since 6/8/16

29 Aug 2016 16:58
You must not read well eh fycus? I can't enjoy the "fake" anymore cause I already left it at the post office. Still deciding on the Gore-Tex jacket. But does spending money on clothes only you recognize give a little skip to your step you fruit? Is the price of your shirt the foundation of your manhood? Did you get burned a bunch & now you feel vindictive? Seriously what is it? I can only imagine a massive douche would act condescending towards someone who is simply trying to have a conversation about the legitimacy of a product and counterfeiting. & sure I'll post some pics of the other "replica" for you, however you'll have to rub your wiry little hands together in anticipation a bit longer cause right now I'm busy. I already made a post explaining that the hardware of the "replica" Gore-Tex jacket matches the real one perfectly. The zippers are identical as are the leather toggles and the leather zipper pull. The buttons are identical (the backs of the buttons are printed). The dark blue stretchy and wavy fabric running parallel to the zipper is the same. The Gore-Tex feels exactly the same as the Gore-Tex lining the inside of a ski jacket I have. Even the stitching irregularities (where two fabrics meet or the stitching ends) match in location. Basically in every place I can compare that you'd expect the imposter to reveal its fakery it matches the real one…The only place that makes the whole piece suspect is the rectangular fabric inner tag w/ feather print detail. The feather print cuts off sorta cheaply before the edge when a truly superior work would be consistent all the way to the edges.

& for the stooge begging for a ban: is that your idea of a punishment? Seriously who would give a fuck? lol. A bit protective of your lonely habitat aren't you? Fuck I stumbled on a nest of real sensitive little prissy bitches.
Crackajack
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8200 posts since 21/4/05

29 Aug 2016 18:19
Seems a minefield being a Visvim fan these days. The RRP being so high means fakers could copy the exact production methods and still undercut, only issue would be the materials?
C-Stylez
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5246 posts since 4/7/12

29 Aug 2016 18:41
unvanquished you come across as a passive aggressive prick, who appears to be advertising / promoting fake designer garms on a fashion forum.

Get a grip.
fycus
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84 posts since 30/1/13

posted 30 Aug 2016 01:33, edited 30 Aug 2016 01:33
Crackajack wrote: Seems a minefield being a Visvim fan these days. The RRP being so high means fakers could copy the exact production methods and still undercut, only issue would be the materials?

Not at all, fakes are easy to distinguish from the real deal it wouldn't be hard at all to highlight the differences especially in person

edit: im not gonna justify- have the replica lover post pictures of the item he received in detail and ill be happy to walk through why its a replica
unvanquished
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12 posts since 6/8/16

30 Aug 2016 13:44
You be freestylin' too homie C-Stylez?… maybe read my total 4 posts again. If you think my posts inquiring about whether or not a particular item is a fake are passive aggressive then I'm curious: how does your mom deal with your sensitivity in the real world. Are you able to have a discussion dude? How do you discuss controversial issues (this not being one) without breaking down into a fit? It's the same way everywhere people think they are distinguished members of an exclusive clique. They want you to show up like a bootlicker. It seems like the respect shown by asking for people's opinion who are obviously more expert in the matter than I am myself or even "thanks" are not sufficient. No big deal though, you can have your "everything visvim thread!!!!!!"

Queenie fykus, you seem so giddy to help so I'm surprised you haven't shown off your excellent shopping skills and explained what is wrong with the tag.. or why they stopped printing the Gore-Tex seam tape, or if they use real Gore-Tex in the fakes. Here ya go. Gush buddy. Oh, and scroll through the pictures to the right. There's a bunch. And the color is off because I didn't adjust camera settings for the lighting, or have a pro setup for product display, or invest much time in taking these pics, all of which are important…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/metahuman/29042329340/in/dateposted/

I'm comparing to this jacket. They are shining clean white light on the jacket, whereas my pictures have yellow light which cause the color difference.

http://shop.havenshop.ca/products/p-f-d-jkt-2-5l-gore-tex-navy

Like I said, I think the giveaway is in the feather detail tag, but I'm no expert in visvim.

Old Gregg seems to think they are virtually the same exact item.
mattt
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328 posts since 21/5/06

30 Aug 2016 21:55
if we can get away from the real v fake debate for a bit (although, my two cents: if someone has a full size run of a shirt - ie, that longrider - that was stupidly limited quantities and is selling it for a suspiciously low price then i'd put my money on it being a fake and therefore i wouldn't buy anything else from that seller)… what's the best way to protect a pair of elk fbts? saphir? neutral polish?
fycus
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84 posts since 30/1/13

31 Aug 2016 00:32
unvanquished wrote: You be freestylin' too homie C-Stylez?… maybe read my total 4 posts again. If you think my posts inquiring about whether or not a particular item is a fake are passive aggressive then I'm curious: how does your mom deal with your sensitivity in the real world. Are you able to have a discussion dude? How do you discuss controversial issues (this not being one) without breaking down into a fit? It's the same way everywhere people think they are distinguished members of an exclusive clique. They want you to show up like a bootlicker. It seems like the respect shown by asking for people's opinion who are obviously more expert in the matter than I am myself or even "thanks" are not sufficient. No big deal though, you can have your "everything visvim thread!!!!!!"

Queenie fykus, you seem so giddy to help so I'm surprised you haven't shown off your excellent shopping skills and explained what is wrong with the tag.. or why they stopped printing the Gore-Tex seam tape, or if they use real Gore-Tex in the fakes. Here ya go. Gush buddy. Oh, and scroll through the pictures to the right. There's a bunch. And the color is off because I didn't adjust camera settings for the lighting, or have a pro setup for product display, or invest much time in taking these pics, all of which are important…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/metahuman/29042329340/in/dateposted/

I'm comparing to this jacket. They are shining clean white light on the jacket, whereas my pictures have yellow light which cause the color difference.

http://shop.havenshop.ca/products/p-f-d-jkt-2-5l-gore-tex-navy

Like I said, I think the giveaway is in the feather detail tag, but I'm no expert in visvim.

Old Gregg seems to think they are virtually the same exact item.

Damn that's a real find man- you are right it must be factory overstock its totally legit! What a steal! I'd buy all of them if I were you.
emixam
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563 posts since 8/2/12

posted 31 Aug 2016 09:37, edited 31 Aug 2016 09:37
This :
mattt wrote: although, my two cents: if someone has a full size run of a shirt - ie, that longrider - that was stupidly limited quantities and is selling it for a suspiciously low price then i'd put my money on it being a fake and therefore i wouldn't buy anything else from that seller

and mispelling on tag : cubism.inG

unvanquished
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12 posts since 6/8/16

31 Aug 2016 13:53
emixam wrote: This :
mattt wrote: although, my two cents: if someone has a full size run of a shirt - ie, that longrider - that was stupidly limited quantities and is selling it for a suspiciously low price then i'd put my money on it being a fake and therefore i wouldn't buy anything else from that seller

and mispelling on tag : cubism.inG



I expected more for a tight ass snob fykus.

I've said from the beginning that these items were probably fakes (the price is all you need), but the reason I purchased them was because the seller allowed you to return the item and would pay for the shipping. I was sorta taken in by the seller and I listed some reasons why I thought he might be able to find the clothes for a really low price that I guess offended the sensibilities of some top notch haughty tools, or maybe it was when I spoke discourteously of fykus' favorite shirt. The Bandana Shirt was an obvious counterfeit. The jacket I think is less obvious. It is pretty much identical to the one on Haven…except the tag, which should be different, but the feather print shouldn't end abruptly before the edge. But as I've also said, I'm no expert on visvim. That's why I came here: to ask people who obviously know what are the distinctions. Enjoy your thread you crazy kids!
jplxx
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2251 posts since 3/11/09

31 Aug 2016 14:11
When did visvim first release the kngr Virgil? What year?
padawan
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4534 posts since 27/6/03

31 Aug 2016 14:24
unvanquished - FYKUS would let Hiroki shit in his Little cloud coffee.
The Bloke(!?) is an unadulterated fan boy, you are the antichrist in his eyes.
burny
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6150 posts since 25/5/06

31 Aug 2016 14:28
jplxx wrote: When did visvim first release the kngr Virgil? What year?

2008/09
burny
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6150 posts since 25/5/06

31 Aug 2016 14:29
Also the PFD isn't nice, regardless of being authentic or not.

The corduroy version was much better.
emixam
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563 posts since 8/2/12

posted 31 Aug 2016 22:45, edited 31 Aug 2016 22:45
burny wrote: Also the PFD isn't nice, regardless of being authentic or not.

The corduroy version was much better.

word. In general all the 2.5L goretex are shite, they get holes and cuts very easily, they don`t make many 3L versions recently though.
fycus
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84 posts since 30/1/13

1 Sep 2016 20:28
padawan wrote: unvanquished - FYKUS would let Hiroki shit in his Little cloud coffee.
The Bloke(!?) is an unadulterated fan boy, you are the antichrist in his eyes.

Say what you want, I've handled my fair share of replicas in my life across all brands and the quality is leagues below the real deal (unless maybe youre referring to cheaper brands or items like screenprinted tees). I've seen people use the same justification for replica saint laurent boots (the quality is almost the same, but price is way less!!!!)

Whatever pics or justification seems fine and (maybe) the pfd is an exception like the suede grizzly replicas they did a few years back but I'd still wager the patterning is off. Sure maybe theyre passable and not immediately obvious as fakes but things are always off. Who knows if the 2.5l replica membrane has comparable performance, what about the heat seams? How about hardware (pretty common for chinese knockoffs to use replica ykk and riri) Anyways, we're arguing about luxury goods that have a notoriously high markup and comparing it to brands like visvim where replication is a pointless exercise:

The longrider shirt is made of vintage bandanas, is cut and sewn together, hand mended by FIL staff, then object dyed in mud. Getting a replica that looks "similar" just because it has branded bandanas (maybe even fake) it does not go through the same processing. You probably even have a more durable shirt with the replica since the bandanas arent in tatters, but that is missing the point entirely…

I saw the same thing with the sanjuro down jacket. In stock pics the jacket looked fine (many ppl were duped and selling on grailed) but in person pictures the nylon had no depth and the pattern was hilarious, and the down baffling was done incorrectly.

Ignorance is bliss though, keep buying replicas if you think you are getting a better value for the money, after all they look the same, right?