serious question, are none of you visvim lot never interested in getting hold of some actual proper vintage clobber. i.e the stuff hiroki takes direct inspiration from, like 20s shawl collar denim USN jackets, duxbak hunting jackets, old service boots stuff like that? I know a lot of you favour vis for the cuts, but imo (and this is prob because proper vintage is my thing) wearing that style in the original cuts looks a lot better…
maybe mil can come in with some sorta input. sayword dont bother

edit: emixam for instance you seem to be heading that way, adding cabourn and rrl to the mix. think that that's a good evolution of wearing that aesthetic, something that would only be improved by adding some og items to your wardrobe.

i think that that's quite a narrow minded way of looking at it

I aint read all the post lol . Going direct to source is pretty hard to pull of modern day, I mean you really got to be a real negus to pull it off. It's about cuts for most. With vis it's cut and exclusivity.

I wear tenderloin, it repro with eccentricity. It's not trying to be LVC or LEE like most repro brands, its trying to be americana, specifically southern redneck americana. I Live in the south and people dress like tenderloiners with trucker caps, boots, hunting gear, etc. White trash red neck. Even tho I'm black, I blend in and can subvert the style. I grew up off rugged raw hip hop, and Tenderloin is still repro, one of the few street repro brands out besides neighborhood.

Also the older people in the south, this goes for both black and white old southern men; dress like old tenderloinery, baggy denim, work pants, button down workshirts, boots or a nice pair of dress shoes, suspenders, pants damn near hiked up to the stomach. But when they DRESS UP its The. Stylist Japan style: Hard wearing materials like heavy twill, denim, etc. blazers and pants, with workwear button-ups. The Stylist is pretty much The Tenderloins for getting dressy. Old southerners got swag.

I see what vis heads, not the brandwhores, but the ones who are really into it are about. they want that style and they want that process. Just like people into CCP, Harnden, Carpe Deim; philosophy and process. This is why I can respect any style.

I have a lot of the actual stuff that helped roll Communism in the '80s and keep down cocksuckers like Saddam in the 90s. It was mass produced to be issued to a million man armed forces, it's rugged, pretty well built but it's not top spec or finessed too much, it's rough around the edges. For example actual US BDUs are heavy and hot, the actual ECWCS jackets have cheap toggles, 80s/90s US PT gear is poly cotton and sucks to run in, I don't have one but I've seen actual British combat smocks and they're cotton, heavy and non waterproof. There's a windproof version which is better but still kinda primitive and raw.

Now all this stuff inspired Tet and Skatething when they were doing w)taps in the early years. Thing is they improved it, BDUs are a better grade of ripstop, lighter and more comfy, cut isn't that much different, maybe a little slimmer than the real, they just feel good to wear, it's finessed in a way that Japanese can do to anything. Their "parasmock", taken off the British smocks is multi layer nylon, much more comfy to wear, better quality, all the hardware is top grade. It's finessed with small in-jokes to their friends in the logos and eccentric flipping of actual military insignia and iconography.

So the finessed Japanese eccentric obsessive version of something is usually more comfortable to wear, higher speced. We know that. But then having that label put you in a club that knows about that shop and that brand. Back in the 90s this had more meaning. It's like having a pair of tier 0 nikes vs GR back then, it feels special.

When I put on an actual pair of woodland BDUs that some Marine used in Panama I feel history, when I put on a pair w)taps BDUs it feels like a club uniform.

"tapskateers"

good vintage stuff isnt "boxy and fit like shit".

it costs though and on here where a t shirt thread ended up with bulk orders for 79p t shirts its not really worth getting into to.

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Yeah, I apologise, it wasn't the most eloquent of answers.

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