Menswear: What were they thinking?


Centurionone
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1494 posts since 30/3/11

24 Nov 2020 11:04
https://therealmccoys.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/yeti-hooded-fur-coat

I thought that most manufacturers were stopping this nonsense
YLAup
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5526 posts since 5/9/11

24 Nov 2020 11:09
Maybe the message hasn't reached Japan yet
Hanto
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2512 posts since 30/11/09

24 Nov 2020 11:28
Not sure about rabbit, but I believe that coyote is culled anyway, so could depend on sourcing.

I guess as a repro their logic is different, but is it any different to leather? Just with a stigma.
Kadafi39
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1858 posts since 30/10/09

24 Nov 2020 11:56
Yeah you don't have to go as far as Japan to find exotic fur or hide, just go to harrods and you'll see plenty.
inversesquare
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6699 posts since 7/6/08

24 Nov 2020 11:59
I doubt it's made from British rabbit but rabbits aren't even native here and are considered vermin
Kadafi39
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1858 posts since 30/10/09

24 Nov 2020 12:44
Surely the nationality of the animal is irrelevant Laughing out loud

It's being sold in the uk, that's the problem.
Jesus
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6022 posts since 7/10/08

24 Nov 2020 12:51
bloody foreign rabbits coming here and invading our fur coats
C-Stylez
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5201 posts since 4/7/12

24 Nov 2020 13:07
Brexit means Brexit
Copper
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2830 posts since 29/11/11

24 Nov 2020 13:21
This is the brand that has a horse farm in Poland where the horses are bred for one type of repro jacket. I'm not surprised.

If you eat meat or buy leather, not sure why you would care about the use of animal products from any other animal, to be honest.
YLAup
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5526 posts since 5/9/11

24 Nov 2020 13:21
Are sheep killed for sheepskin?
Copper
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2830 posts since 29/11/11

posted 24 Nov 2020 13:24, edited 24 Nov 2020 13:24
edit not sure what you mean
Centurionone
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1494 posts since 30/3/11

24 Nov 2020 13:51
Copper wrote: edit not sure what you mean

He means whether the skin / fur is a byproduct because the animal is hunted to be eaten or the animal is bred and killed purely for their skin/fur . Not that difficult really Roll Eyes
padawan
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4390 posts since 27/6/03

24 Nov 2020 14:00
Remember seeing that jacket last week and thinking the same thing.
People were up in arms with CANADA GOOSE's use of pelts, they'd been doing it for years but it hit the Western Public's consciousness and boom! All about the demographic.
Copper
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2830 posts since 29/11/11

24 Nov 2020 14:07
Centurionone wrote:
Copper wrote: edit not sure what you mean

He means whether the skin / fur is a byproduct because the animal is hunted to be eaten or the animal is bred and killed purely for their skin/fur . Not that difficult really Roll Eyes

Reason I am confused is because if an animal doesn't have its skin it's dead…

Leather is rarely a byproduct of the meat industry

What's the difference between killing an animal for meat and for fur? In both instances, the animal is being slaughtered unnecessarily for human gain.
fudge.dredd
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1546 posts since 15/12/12

24 Nov 2020 14:12
Copper wrote:
Centurionone wrote:
Copper wrote: edit not sure what you mean

He means whether the skin / fur is a byproduct because the animal is hunted to be eaten or the animal is bred and killed purely for their skin/fur . Not that difficult really Roll Eyes

Reason I am confused is because if an animal doesn't have its skin it's dead…

Leather is rarely a byproduct of the meat industry

What's the difference between killing an animal for meat and for fur? In both instances, the animal is being slaughtered unnecessarily for human gain.

One of the most sensible posts I’ve read on here that isn’t mine.

Good luck using logic with some of this lot matey, you won’t get fur… I mean far,
joeyjojo
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4417 posts since 24/8/06

24 Nov 2020 14:29
Usually the fur is taken when the animal is alive so they are skinned alive which is obviously a lot more painful for the animal.
Richgee
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97 posts since 26/4/15

24 Nov 2020 14:54
there are different levels of animal cruelty e.g. veal and foie gras

but wearing animal carcass is no different from eating it
Copper
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2830 posts since 29/11/11

24 Nov 2020 15:05
facts
deuce
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13965 posts since 21/1/08

24 Nov 2020 15:09
joeyjojo wrote: Usually the fur is taken when the animal is alive so they are skinned alive which is obviously a lot more painful for the animal.
simply not true. i think there was a video circulating ages ago of this, and it actually led back to PETA

ask yourself;

from a logical view, why would anyone skin something alive? imagine how difficult it would be to skin something that is squirming, kicking and trying to survive/escape. all whilst the skinner has an insanely sharp knife in their hand, and the animal is trying to bite/scratch/kick.

a damaged pelt = worthless

fur = leather without the hair burned off. literally no difference
swiftus
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1278 posts since 1/7/09

posted 24 Nov 2020 15:19, edited 24 Nov 2020 15:19
deuce wrote:
joeyjojo wrote: Usually the fur is taken when the animal is alive so they are skinned alive which is obviously a lot more painful for the animal.
simply not true. i think there was a video circulating ages ago of this, and it actually led back to PETA

ask yourself;

from a logical view, why would anyone skin something alive? imagine how difficult it would be to skin something that is squirming, kicking and trying to survive/escape. all whilst the skinner has an insanely sharp knife in their hand, and the animal is trying to bite/scratch/kick.

a damaged pelt = worthless

fur = leather without the hair burned off. literally no difference

Logic says you can sedate an animal, and then take its fur off. So it's still technically alive, and therefore a lot easier to handle.

Source: I just made it up, but sounds reasonable.

I did read somewhere that it's preferable when they're alive, because the skin is still 'fresh' (for lack of a better word).