24 Nov 2020 16:09
seen the video of dogs being skinned alive - nasty.
24 Nov 2020 17:30
Most people seem to echo the point I made earlier, but I guess it also comes down to whether the material has a practical purpose/benefit, or is purely cosmetic.
Does a handbag/wallet need to be made out of leather, possibly. Does it have to be crocodile skin, not necessarily, but it is a variation on the raw material, which, based on it being outside of the 'norm', is frowned upon. If you were wearing that jacket in Alaska, would it be as unnecessary as wearing a Woolrich Parka, or an Eddie Bauer jacket with a real fur hood?
If I tell someone I have a pair of Kudu Aldens, they don't bat an eyelid. If I said it was antelope, some would question it. Same with Shell Cordovan or Shinki leather being horse etc.
25 Nov 2020 07:39
Cow leather is a byproduct of the meat industry (at least that used in footwear which the area I work in). But I’ve heard that some companies/tanneries are looking ahead to a point where demand for leather is higher than for meat - but I think that’s a way off.
More ‘exotic’ skins like kudu etc gets a bit of a grey area as they are generally from population controls/culls rather than farmed animals.
I guess fur differs as it’s only the pelts that are used? The trapping of wild animals is pretty cruel too, I can’t see that there’s a harmless way of doing that, trap lines sound pretty grim. I wonder if there’s an emotive reaction too as fur is clearly from an animal whereas leather is pretty abstracted from the raw material? (Just to clarify I’m not making a pro fur argument here at all).
Again just speaking for shoes it’s a really complex issue - on a tangent but most leather alternatives are PU based, so basically oil materials and plastics which are t great environmentally. Some interesting things happening with plant based ‘leathers’ though