Menswear: Whats every chief wearing about you aka What we wore 6 months ago and now dislike


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foulstyle
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428 posts since 8/4/07

19 Dec 2007 22:15
finding yourself and finding your comfortable style is what places like this are all about. Theres a fuckin huuuge spectrum of styles here which is good. Sometimes a banter breaks out that goes mega tangential such as this one, so im jus gonna leave it at what already got said. Wear what you feel suits you, hf.
thoMASSS
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541 posts since 4/9/07

19 Dec 2007 22:16
Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…
sofasogud
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5198 posts since 13/3/03

19 Dec 2007 22:21
RETRO KID wrote: Why do people tuck there trackys in to there socks i dont get it?


For shoplifting purposes
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

19 Dec 2007 22:23
"Theres a fuckin huuuge spectrum of styles here"

disagree.
india
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5661 posts since 31/10/05

19 Dec 2007 22:26
thoMASSS wrote: Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…


Laughing out loud so true, all of it but especially the first bit.
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

19 Dec 2007 22:29
thoMASSS wrote: Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

That probably was John Terry.
sofasogud
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5198 posts since 13/3/03

19 Dec 2007 22:48
Commander_Venus wrote:
hdsy- wrote: unfortunately emo and indie both now have negative connotations cause of all the shit modern emo and indie bands. imo.

This diluted scene rubbish is mostly to blame on the internet. Firstly, as previously said music is more accesible and more easily distibuted, both subliminally and forcefully.
Also, 'before', you has to be part of a scene to see how they dressed and what they were into. Now if you want to dress 'emo' or 'indie' you can just go on myspace and copy the looks - which is where all the highstreet clones get it.
I think for a lot of the clones now, their 'music-inspired' dress sense in basically a statement of intent for the opposite sex - and partly for same sex. Like, "you dress the same as me - lets go out with each other we must get on". Or, "you have the same hair as me, lets be friends."

The indie look has been the generic look of middle class students since at least the late 70s - it's never been an elite look (until Dior got their hands on it). Looking back I probably became a casual in the 80s because I didn't like that scruffy look or the fake "rebellion" of dying my hair black or wearing clothes from Oxfam (yawn).

It's the music that has gone really downhill. Indie used to mean jangly music like the Smiths or Wedding Present or early Orange Juice. Great tunes fizzing with ideas. Not corporate shite like Razorlight or fucking Snow Patrol. Christ, I imagine young couples buying furniture to those horrible Snow Patrol songs.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

19 Dec 2007 22:48
thoMASSS wrote: Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…

Why wouldn't you want them wearing dior jeans if they could afford them?
sofasogud
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5198 posts since 13/3/03

19 Dec 2007 22:53
thoMASSS wrote: Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…

I don't actually think it is the clothes that are the issue - it is the ridiculous hair cuts they sport. If it hasn't been razored up the side then it's been bleached and/or gelled into some "wild" haircut at total odds with the no doubt small c conservative views they hold.
joe151
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6230 posts since 21/2/07

19 Dec 2007 22:56
heeza geeza pub pub pub
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

19 Dec 2007 22:59
sofasogud wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…

I don't actually think it is the clothes that are the issue - it is the ridiculous hair cuts they sport. If it hasn't been razored up the side then it's been bleached and/or gelled into some "wild" haircut at total odds with the no doubt small c conservative views they hold.

what they're wearing is entirely the issue and they'd possibly judge you in the same way you've just judged them.
thoMASSS
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541 posts since 4/9/07

19 Dec 2007 23:02
Hello World wrote: Why wouldn't you want them wearing dior jeans if they could afford them?

It devalues the brand and the image. If everyone has something then what is the reason to have it? It might as well be topman. Ofcourse in an idealistic way I could argue that I buy Dior for the fit and quality (which I do) but also it's nice to be wearing something a little special.

Same way you wouldn't want everyone having a degree.
sofasogud
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5198 posts since 13/3/03

19 Dec 2007 23:02
EVERS wrote:
sofasogud wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…

I don't actually think it is the clothes that are the issue - it is the ridiculous hair cuts they sport. If it hasn't been razored up the side then it's been bleached and/or gelled into some "wild" haircut at total odds with the no doubt small c conservative views they hold.

what they're wearing is entirely the issue and they'd possibly judge you in the same way you've just judged them.

Everyone judges everyone don't they? What I meant was I don't find the outfits themselves intrinsically bad - it's the silly (imo) haircuts that I don't get.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

19 Dec 2007 23:04
thoMASSS wrote:
Hello World wrote: Why wouldn't you want them wearing dior jeans if they could afford them?

It devalues the brand and the image. If everyone has something then what is the reason to have it? It might as well be topman. Ofcourse in an idealistic way I could argue that I buy Dior for the fit and quality (which I do) but also it's nice to be wearing something a little special.

Same way you wouldn't want everyone having a degree.

so at what point did you decide that you wanted to dress differently from everyone else / man on the street?
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

19 Dec 2007 23:15
sofasogud wrote:
EVERS wrote:
sofasogud wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: Whilst I think the chav outfit looks stupid, I can completely understand that if I hung out with people dressing like that I would think the same and so would have no real reason to progess…if thats the right word.

The thing that grates me is the trendy look, I guess theoretically the chav with money to buy decent clobber. However they still end up looking like a footballer. I'm not saying everyone should be prancing around in Diors (glad they arent) but I wish the average person would take enough of an interest to develop a personal style. If you have done this I feel you can point out others mistakes with validity. Rather than just shouting abuse whilst wearing your John Terry replica outfit.

Having said all of this I do feel like a bit of a fool sitting in the local thinking to myself how much my outfit has cost. Im glad its not obvious because I didn't buy it to say I have such and such brand jeans/whatever but it does seem a bit OTT sometimes…

I don't actually think it is the clothes that are the issue - it is the ridiculous hair cuts they sport. If it hasn't been razored up the side then it's been bleached and/or gelled into some "wild" haircut at total odds with the no doubt small c conservative views they hold.

what they're wearing is entirely the issue and they'd possibly judge you in the same way you've just judged them.

Everyone judges everyone don't they? What I meant was I don't find the outfits themselves intrinsically bad - it's the silly (imo) haircuts that I don't get.
don't personally think everybody judges - they may have preconceived ideas and prejudices.

would love to understand more about how people make their style choices and decisions.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2007 23:24
Hello World wrote: If the individual looks good in his all saints outfit and enjoys what he is wearing what is wrong with that look? We need some kind of metrics here.

I think people were referring to the connotations and not aesthetics of a brand/garment - If a label started making well made and great fitting tshirts with pictures of a baby being raped on it and jeans with swasticas all over them. lol

EVERS wrote: doodles has opened a valid debate.

for the record, all the skate stuff and visvim seen here I find as grotesque as anything found in an Officers Club outlet store but you'll rarely find that angle on this forum.

Smiling

Why go you find Visvims grotesque? Not for the exterior branding, because there is none. And not for the connotations of the customers they attract, it's probably more because of the aesthetics of them. Which isnt the point people were making with Gstar/All saints.
thoMASSS
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541 posts since 4/9/07

19 Dec 2007 23:24
Hello World wrote: so at what point did you decide that you wanted to dress differently from everyone else / man on the street?

I always think if you are going to buy something then buy the best, item in your opinion, you can afford. Same applies to clothes. I wouldn't say I make a complete conscious effort to dress 'differently' because there is nothing especially different about how I dress in the grand scheme of things. I mean im still wearing jeans and tee shirts etc etc. I just like to wear something with attention to detail. I just take an interest in fashion and that it is a different path to mainstream choice. I don't have any hatred towards anyone that dresses head to toe in All Saints I just think it would be nice if people, if they are going to criticize others dress, had some way to back up their opinions. I'm not saying Dior jeans or whatever are the ultimate item for everyone in any way I just think, maybe not so much now but when I first tried them on, they are an informed choice.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

19 Dec 2007 23:33
So what made you choose dior jeans as the best item you can afford?
Was it through seeing it on here and people getting positive feedback or did you go into selfridges or something see them on the shelf and think they are for me?

Essentially the only detail on the jeans is the rear pocket, and the fit of apc new standards when sized correctly is virtually identical (since they were based on them) both apc an dior are unknown brands.

If people ask do you take pleasure in saying they are dior?
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2007 23:34
Hello World wrote:
thoMASSS wrote:
Hello World wrote: Why wouldn't you want them wearing dior jeans if they could afford them?

It devalues the brand and the image. If everyone has something then what is the reason to have it? It might as well be topman. Ofcourse in an idealistic way I could argue that I buy Dior for the fit and quality (which I do) but also it's nice to be wearing something a little special.

Same way you wouldn't want everyone having a degree.

so at what point did you decide that you wanted to dress differently from everyone else / man on the street?

The masses consume what is fed to them, partly why they wear all saints/Gstar/Topman is because they are spoon fed these fashions by celebrities/the media/their peers + it is easily accessible to them.

I'm sure if Dior opened a store on every high st in Britian and sold jeans for £40 and tees for £15 it would only be a metter of weeks before it was the Gstar boys new staple brand.

To be an individual you have to separate yourself from the group. For that to happen you have to have the initial desire to do so, which most people do not.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

19 Dec 2007 23:35
Hello World wrote: So what made you choose dior jeans as the best item you can afford?
Was it through seeing it on here and people getting positive feedback or did you go into selfridges or something see them on the shelf and think they are for me?

Essentially the only detail on the jeans is the rear pocket, and the fit of apc new standards when sized correctly is virtually identical (since they were based on them) both apc an dior are unknown brands.

If people ask do you take pleasure in saying they are dior?

Are you playing Devils Advocate DDD? Because surely the above applies to you also? Its not as if you dress like Flaasket or something.