Menswear: Whats every chief wearing about you aka What we wore 6 months ago and now dislike


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Mr X
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7053 posts since 12/7/07

20 Dec 2007 00:16
Laughing out loud ^ Then go back to being Doodle Duck Dandy! I read what you write as if it were typed and spoken by Stephen Hawking.
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:19
thoMASSS wrote: The most obvious thing I can think to relate it to is women.

Would you rather choose the big titted, orange, blonde strutting down the street, she thinks she is it, she craves the attention.Oceana is her playground. You'd probably shag her and catch something and realise a week later she's an annoying slag and not care because there you have seen her type before.

Or do you do for the one on the other side of the road with a sort of awkward beauty. She is gorgeous but she doesn't need to let you know you can just tell from a glance. There is just something about her that you won't forget for the rest of the day and would go back to find her again.
ludicrous!
Popeye Doyle
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1979 posts since 26/1/07

20 Dec 2007 00:22
Nokia Boy wrote: Laughing out loud ^ Then go back to being Doodle Duck Dandy! I read what you write as if it were typed and spoken by Stephen Hawking.

highlight text > right click + copy > control panel > speech > paste into "use the following text to preview the voice" box > click preview voice (make sure microsoft sam voice is selected)
thoMASSS
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541 posts since 4/9/07

20 Dec 2007 00:26
Are you assuming that there is only one social group or do you mean with regards to each individual group? Obviously some social groups will always be the hunted.



Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:34
EVERS wrote:
Commander_Venus wrote: @ Hello World

It depends to what you aspire to, if we are talking purely numbers, which your above post insinuates, then no.
My goal isnt to be in a 'smaller' group but a 'better' group. 'Better' obviously relating to personal preferences, I would only want to part of a group for its dynamics and what it represents.
If you take a Gstar guy, who wears what he wears for previously stated reasons and pitched him against say a Dior/Visvim or whatever fashion kid, you would be able to make personality assumptions. Obviously there aresome who this wont apply to, but you can apply this to the group as a whole.

Basically, I'm more likely to get glassed by someone wearing Gstar jeans and an old Glory polo, than I am by Ph!l.

this comes accross as judging people based on what they wear. thats flawed.

No not judgingpeople on what they wear, but making assumptions about people on what they wear.
dan-tours-velos
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3544 posts since 26/8/06

20 Dec 2007 00:35
EVERS wrote: think people do Buy Dior for aesthetic grounds, whenever I see Dior jeans for sale on; ebay, msn group, here - the most commonly asked question is wheter they are 17s, 19s or 21s. People wouldnt buy Dior jeans without knowing which cut they were -



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

something the wetherspoons crowd lacks is the gumption to realise, there_is_different_cuts
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:37
Hello World wrote: it seems interesting to me that you have the aspiration side of movement to the smaller / better group and also reason that you don't want to be associated with the negative connotations of the appearance of the common group.

Stereotyping is quite the human condition, we are brought up to expect certain people to look certain ways, and from that early education its hard to shake things off.

As I stated yesterday on this issue, when you are younger and in much larger social groupings for example school / university the "pressure" to fit into the group image / personality is very high,but as soon as you exposed to much smaller social groupings the desire to be more of an individual in appearance / personality appears to become much stronger.

not on trial here masses, your answer is just part of the discussion.

This is a contradiction, because thats one of the reasons for moving to be part of the smaller/better group - exactly because it doesnt come with the negative connotations of the common group.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:38
dan-tours-velos wrote:
Commander_Venus wrote: think people do Buy Dior for aesthetic grounds, whenever I see Dior jeans for sale on; ebay, msn group, here - the most commonly asked question is wheter they are 17s, 19s or 21s. People wouldnt buy Dior jeans without knowing which cut they were -



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

something the wetherspoons crowd lacks is the gumption to realise, there_is_different_cuts
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

20 Dec 2007 00:42
My original sentence was grammatically incorrect, my intention was as you have provided, that is there is a double force of attraction towards the smaller group, pulled in by aspiration, pushed away by negative connotations.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:49
And then when the smaller group gains in popularity and along with it comes negative connotations, the aspirational individuals are forced to find another group and claim to have never has any association with the previous smaller group. This formula can be applied to fans of smaller, underground bands who find popularity.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 00:49
By the way I never liked My Chemical Romance.
thoMASSS
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541 posts since 4/9/07

20 Dec 2007 00:57
Are you trying to say that no one is original and we are all influenced? If so I completely agree.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 01:22
We are all influenced yes; even anti-fashion, anti-culture people are influenced by those that preceded them. But some individuality is attainable and that stems from not letting your interests or the group you belong to define who you are.
As a lame example, just because you listen to rock/metal/emo doesnt mean you have to wear tight jeans and have floppy hair. Individuality comes from having integrity and being yourself (no ghey cliche).
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

20 Dec 2007 11:48
EVERS wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: The most obvious thing I can think to relate it to is women.

Would you rather choose the big titted, orange, blonde strutting down the street, she thinks she is it, she craves the attention.Oceana is her playground. You'd probably shag her and catch something and realise a week later she's an annoying slag and not care because there you have seen her type before.

Or do you do for the one on the other side of the road with a sort of awkward beauty. She is gorgeous but she doesn't need to let you know you can just tell from a glance. There is just something about her that you won't forget for the rest of the day and would go back to find her again.
ludicrous!
first one for me…anyone who picks number two is a closet gay who dreams of having their anus penetrated…and that is a fucking FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MerciBeau
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4324 posts since 7/7/06

20 Dec 2007 12:37
thoMASSS wrote: Are you trying to say that no one is original and we are all influenced? If so I completely agree.

- intertextuality.


Commander_Venus wrote: We are all influenced yes; even anti-fashion, anti-culture people are influenced by those that preceded them. But some individuality is attainable and that stems from not letting your interests or the group you belong to define who you are.
As a lame example, just because you listen to rock/metal/emo doesnt mean you have to wear tight jeans and have floppy hair. Individuality comes from having integrity and being yourself (no ghey cliche).

when it comes to fashion which analogy fits best then?

metaphorically;
are we all DJ's?
are we all composers?
or are we all covers bands?
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

20 Dec 2007 12:42
Deceptral_Optometrics wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: Are you trying to say that no one is original and we are all influenced? If so I completely agree.

- intertextuality.


Commander_Venus wrote: We are all influenced yes; even anti-fashion, anti-culture people are influenced by those that preceded them. But some individuality is attainable and that stems from not letting your interests or the group you belong to define who you are.
As a lame example, just because you listen to rock/metal/emo doesnt mean you have to wear tight jeans and have floppy hair. Individuality comes from having integrity and being yourself (no ghey cliche).

when it comes to fashion which analogy fits best then?

metaphorically;
are we all DJ's?
are we all composers?
or are we all covers bands?

Well there would be many more layers than that. But to play along as this is quite fun, The composers would be the actual designers, the DJ's would be the media/the stockists, basically the ones who feed fashion to the masses and the cover bands would be the high street copycats.

Using your analogy I would like to see myself as something like a freelance journalist, rather than being spoon fed I can go seek things out for myself - but at the same time I am still working for a "DJ" in the end.
Ineff
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9820 posts since 7/4/04

20 Dec 2007 12:49
Nokia Boy wrote: Laughing out loud ^ Then go back to being Doodle Duck Dandy!

Yeah, DDD used to be the most excitable and rock n roll poster on here!

Noble Locks wrote:
EVERS wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: The most obvious thing I can think to relate it to is women.

Would you rather choose the big titted, orange, blonde strutting down the street, she thinks she is it, she craves the attention.Oceana is her playground. You'd probably shag her and catch something and realise a week later she's an annoying slag and not care because there you have seen her type before.

Or do you do for the one on the other side of the road with a sort of awkward beauty. She is gorgeous but she doesn't need to let you know you can just tell from a glance. There is just something about her that you won't forget for the rest of the day and would go back to find her again.
ludicrous!
first one for me…anyone who picks number two is a closet gay who dreams of having their anus penetrated…and that is a fucking FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noble is the truth LOL.
hdsy-
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3904 posts since 30/4/06

20 Dec 2007 13:16
this discussion is Laughing out loud
YB
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3859 posts since 24/8/03

20 Dec 2007 13:19
Noble Locks wrote:
EVERS wrote:
thoMASSS wrote: The most obvious thing I can think to relate it to is women.

Would you rather choose the big titted, orange, blonde strutting down the street, she thinks she is it, she craves the attention.Oceana is her playground. You'd probably shag her and catch something and realise a week later she's an annoying slag and not care because there you have seen her type before.

Or do you do for the one on the other side of the road with a sort of awkward beauty. She is gorgeous but she doesn't need to let you know you can just tell from a glance. There is just something about her that you won't forget for the rest of the day and would go back to find her again.
ludicrous!
first one for me…anyone who picks number two is a closet gay who dreams of having their anus penetrated…and that is a fucking FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Depends if you beleive in "love" or not i guess…
Short term vs Long term

YB
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3859 posts since 24/8/03

20 Dec 2007 13:21
hdsy- wrote: this discussion is Laughing out loud

I read so much i don't even know what the point trying to be made is?