Menswear: Which watch?


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TROYBOY
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542 posts since 28/2/12

4 Dec 2016 22:09
lol
Mr.X.
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2852 posts since 23/6/13

4 Dec 2016 22:38
That certainly is a funny contradictory tale.
wembly
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316 posts since 15/1/13

6 Dec 2016 09:17
Superprecise wrote: Always gonna be a second rate sub though isn't it. At least the Pelagos is doing its own thing.

becuase you get a lot for less! a brand with a huge history and some stunning pieces.
I think a lot more people should appreciate this brand and don't handle it like the "poor mens rolex" because it is not
swede
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8029 posts since 21/3/09

6 Dec 2016 09:43
I don't like the dial on the pelagos
Superprecise
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2078 posts since 16/7/11

posted 6 Dec 2016 10:30, edited 6 Dec 2016 10:30
It's not that I see Tudor as a poor man's Rolex, it's that I don't particularly enjoy what Tudor are doing. What I like most about Rolex is that they do the same thing year in year out and have therefore achieved a sort of ubiquity like no other watchmaker. Whether you like what they do or not, the brand has an immense level of integrity and a really controlled design language. One exception to this is blingy shite, although even this has become part of their aesthetic. Utilitarian meets nouveau riche, in a good way.

On the other hand, a lot of Tudor watches have a cynical retro appeal that I think is really lame. From the beige fake-patina lume to the red line of text on the new Black Bay which obviously references a red Sub. It's Rolex's fashion diffusion line. I don't care that they're less expensive/exclusive and I agree that the quality seems very high, it's just that they do a lot of stuff that Rolex wouldn't, i.e. pastiche vintage. Like I said, the Pelagos on the other hand is a legitimate modern interpretation of a sub, I'd love one.

IMHO
YLAup
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5158 posts since 5/9/11

6 Dec 2016 17:50
Anyone have experience with Alpina? Considering something from their lower end but still pricy for me.
Sumbeam
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809 posts since 27/1/11

6 Dec 2016 18:22
Been after an Omega speedmaster for a while, I was close to buying one back in April and the one I wanted was £2,640 but the price has now risen to £3,240 as the cheapest I can see, for the exact same watch.
Anyone know if prices will continue to rise? Or should I hold out to see if they come down?
RickRude
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3266 posts since 13/1/12

6 Dec 2016 19:42
Isn't Baddie selling one for like £1500
MoB
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36684 posts since 31/8/04

6 Dec 2016 19:48
Laughing out loud
MLI
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4440 posts since 6/10/09

6 Dec 2016 21:02
Superprecise wrote: It's not that I see Tudor as a poor man's Rolex, it's that I don't particularly enjoy what Tudor are doing. What I like most about Rolex is that they do the same thing year in year out and have therefore achieved a sort of ubiquity like no other watchmaker. Whether you like what they do or not, the brand has an immense level of integrity and a really controlled design language. One exception to this is blingy shite, although even this has become part of their aesthetic. Utilitarian meets nouveau riche, in a good way.

On the other hand, a lot of Tudor watches have a cynical retro appeal that I think is really lame. From the beige fake-patina lume to the red line of text on the new Black Bay which obviously references a red Sub. It's Rolex's fashion diffusion line. I don't care that they're less expensive/exclusive and I agree that the quality seems very high, it's just that they do a lot of stuff that Rolex wouldn't, i.e. pastiche vintage. Like I said, the Pelagos on the other hand is a legitimate modern interpretation of a sub, I'd love one.

IMHO

Good post. The utility of the Rolex sub is what I love. I was at a model train show the other day and a 50 year old guy who had restored his grandfathers big scale steam loco had a felt smock, cheap pen in the pocket, herringbone work pants and hiking boots, dressed for work, but with an element of personal style. Anyway he moved his arm while talking and there was his sub. So cool in that context.
Sumbeam
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809 posts since 27/1/11

7 Dec 2016 09:37
RickRude wrote: Isn't Baddie selling one for like £1500
Laughing out loud
Sure he's been selling that since I joined the forum…
Superprecise
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2078 posts since 16/7/11

7 Dec 2016 11:51
I've overstated my disdain for Tudor and probably sound like a cunt in the process. I actually think they're doing what they're doing really well, it's just not my cup of tea. Like the Black Bay Bronze is way too faux vintage looking to me but the execution is stunning. Oh and the Black Bay 36 is pretty cool too, like a maxi dial on an Explorer.
Scottishmark
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523 posts since 25/1/11

7 Dec 2016 17:57
I'm with you on the dislike for Tudor - I just don't 'get it'.
EssexBoyII
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6486 posts since 5/6/07

7 Dec 2016 19:06
I like Tudors but fully understand the reasons for not liking them. Superprecise put it very well
Mr.X.
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2852 posts since 23/6/13

7 Dec 2016 20:42
Did he? The first paragraph reads like it was typed by Mickey Mouse aka someone with an Oxford Brookes university education.

For me, Tudor to Rolex is what Bentley is to Rolls Royce.
MLI
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4440 posts since 6/10/09

posted 7 Dec 2016 22:59, edited 7 Dec 2016 22:59
I remember these were pretty popular in Japan in the early 2000s, for people who didn't want to pay and didn't care if you knew it.

Superprecise
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2078 posts since 16/7/11

8 Dec 2016 11:53
Mr.X. wrote: Did he? The first paragraph reads like it was typed by Mickey Mouse aka someone with an Oxford Brookes university education

Please explain what the fuck you're on about.
Anzar
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45 posts since 15/8/16

9 Dec 2016 07:17
MLI wrote: I remember these were pretty popular in Japan in the early 2000s, for people who didn't want to pay and didn't care if you knew it.



Fully agreed, truly it looks great
Homer
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23926 posts since 8/5/03

18 Dec 2016 11:16
What's the typical trade in value on a rolley vs somewhere like blowers.
75% of their price?
MLI
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4440 posts since 6/10/09

18 Dec 2016 12:00
Anzar wrote:
MLI wrote: I remember these were pretty popular in Japan in the early 2000s, for people who didn't want to pay and didn't care if you knew it.



Fully agreed, truly it looks great

? Fully agree with what?