General Discussion: World Cup 2014


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padawan
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4477 posts since 27/6/03

23 Jun 2014 12:21
Just been listening to a few of the phone ins I missed. 5 Live interviewing loads of other fans from different countries asking why Wor Lot have done so badly - Mexicans,brazilians,germans Most of them saying we have Great players they just don't work as a team and don't have the "cajones".
nephew
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91 posts since 23/11/11

posted 23 Jun 2014 12:23, edited 23 Jun 2014 12:23
Laughing out loud @ HiFi
illmurray
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569 posts since 18/4/12

23 Jun 2014 13:43
marley you say stuff sometimes thats interesting but its like reading naked lunch
Razorlight123
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4993 posts since 13/1/10

posted 23 Jun 2014 13:46, edited 23 Jun 2014 13:46
marley wrote: are you serious he should have got the job ?? the only way they will change is a vast change in senior fa and arsene wenger as boss that whole hype oh candle face been england manager was too much

Why would Arsene Wenger take the England job?! He finds life stressful enough with the media just managing Arsenal in England, If he does take an international role or any other club role after Arsenal - he will return to France.

Under Harry, the style of play would be exactly the same, but I feel they'd be more hunger from the players.

I don't think anything can really change unless you're able to produce a truly creative player - Gazza-esque, that you can build a team around. I thought Wilshere was going to be that guy but he doesn't seem up to the task.

Or you adopt a negative style of play and focus on defense and hit teams on the counter until you find that creative guy. But that's doubtful.

England will play the same way come the Euros. And the excuse will be that Hodgson is simply providing a foundation for England to build on. He will not get any blame.

But I'm sure he'll resign come 2 years time (After the Euros).
padawan
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4477 posts since 27/6/03

23 Jun 2014 14:14
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047bth4
5 live - your call 1 hour prog about 'ARRY's comments - Grahan Taylor agreeing.
players should have no problem coming out ?
Razorlight123
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4993 posts since 13/1/10

posted 23 Jun 2014 14:20, edited 23 Jun 2014 14:20
No players going to want to come out. I'm sure Rooney a few times in his mind never wanted to play for England in a few games - Maybe not to the extent of telling Ferguson 'Get me out of the game tomorrow Gaffa'.

It's like any type of profession though, especially if you're under stress. They'll be times when you can't be arsed to go.

Football's changed.
snaye
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10953 posts since 24/10/02

23 Jun 2014 14:30
As if any player is gonna come out! press he will get fucking crucified
padawan
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4477 posts since 27/6/03

posted 23 Jun 2014 14:37, edited 23 Jun 2014 14:37
thats why I put question mark…Never thought they would\will.
Cake and eat it.
Ryan Giggs classic example.
marley
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455 posts since 17/3/14

23 Jun 2014 14:48
still find it shocking that milner wasnt conciderd (at all) for the left side such great tekkers but gets overlooked, he really should be prominat in the starting line up for years… its things like these that other players see on the fringe and think f that
marley
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455 posts since 17/3/14

23 Jun 2014 14:50
illmurray wrote: marley you say stuff sometimes thats interesting but its like reading naked lunch


yes i have gathered that, i will take my time when i post next .
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

23 Jun 2014 14:50
They would never ever come out and admit it cos they would never ever play for England again.
Razorlight123
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posted 23 Jun 2014 14:51, edited 23 Jun 2014 14:51
From what I gathered Marley, I agree man. Milner is a dependable player, defensively and offensively.

Don't think Roy used him as he's considered a negative option by many. Would've helped though in this tournament.
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

23 Jun 2014 14:52
People will say this is bollocks but i dun care, im a believer.
Kango
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11 posts since 29/4/14

23 Jun 2014 14:58
sure, nice to do, nothing to be sniffed at.

Buuut, I dunno, where are the tweets of 'respect' for the boy with the brain tumor himself. Or his parents dealing with it. Or the person operating on him …
snaye
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10953 posts since 24/10/02

23 Jun 2014 15:03
Yep thats it thats deffo the reason why we didnt go through, Milner. He would hade made such a difference worldy Milner.

What a fucking load of bollocks Laughing out loud
illmurray
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569 posts since 18/4/12

23 Jun 2014 15:04
lawro's zorro comment. definitely most entertaining co commentator, just chats shit like a grumpy camp old man.
Burt
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6145 posts since 3/1/10

23 Jun 2014 15:05
Laughing out loud

Noble LOVES a bonny Ronny story.
marley
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455 posts since 17/3/14

23 Jun 2014 15:07
Razorlight123 wrote: From what I gathered Marley, I agree man. Milner is a dependable player, defensively and offensively.

Don't think Roy used him as he's considered a negative option by many. Would've helped though in this tournament.

He would of been a big help in a vast amount of games over the years , imo i think hes had a rough deal , it dos make you think who scouts the players, hes very consistent but rarely gets used - why have him there ….or roy and co had alreadry made there mind about the w/c and giving the youngers exp …then use milner in euros …
Razorlight123
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posted 23 Jun 2014 15:11, edited 23 Jun 2014 15:11
snaye wrote: Yep thats it thats deffo the reason why we didnt go through, Milner. He would hade made such a difference worldy Milner.

What a fucking load of bollocks Laughing out loud

Clearly not a reason, there are numerous factors - and I believe that's one.

And that comment is partly why he's not really chosen, not a stand out guy - he just does his job well, nothing spectacular.

What did Wilshere or Llanna produce in this tourney?!
marley
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455 posts since 17/3/14

23 Jun 2014 15:12
snaye wrote: Yep thats it thats deffo the reason why we didnt go through, Milner. He would hade made such a difference worldy Milner.

What a fucking load of bollocks Laughing out loud
your missing the point
i didnt say that did i !! im saying using a player thats more than capable not been used at all